Am 18. Dec, 2001 schwätzte jtannenba so: > ok, put everyone in audio group..still, users could > not > use cdrom..Had to put everyone in the disk group > also?? > This doesn't seem right. What did I miss? You're trying to read from /dev/hdc ( or /dev/hdb or something ), which is in the disk group. Look at user and group ownership of the devices being used. /dev/cdrom ( whatever it's pointing to ) /dev/audio /dev/dsp I don't know ( at this time of morning ) if there's anything else you talk to for audio. You should only need read permissions for the cdrom, but write perms for the audio devices. ciao, der.hans -- # http://home.pages.de/~lufthans/ http://www.DevelopOnline.com/ # Magic is science unexplained. - der.hans