I haven't heard about George leaving the state with a trail of troopers 
following him.  If it is true, it is a loss to PLUG and a big loss for the 
GCC meetings.

As far as a syllabus for PLUG newbie classes, I think we need to consider the 
target audience.  Then we can develop a class that is specifically targeted 
to that audience.  A small business user is different from a college student, 
whi is different from a home user.  They should probably have separate sylabi 
(sp?).

Security would obviously be a smaller issue to newbies, but should be 
addressed in its own class.

On Monday 17 December 2001 16:26, you wrote:
> I would be interested in doing a basic security class. I would use the SANS
> securing Linux step by step for a guide, all the students should buy a
> copy. $49.00 from their web site, some of it is a bit dated but can be
> applied nevertheless. There is also a six user license version for $79.00,
> if people prepay then we could purchase that for them and save a bit. It
> would be geared toward workstations, although I could do some server level
> stuff if there is interest. I am most comfortable with RedHat so I would
> use that as the baseline for the course. The version can be anything from
> 6.0 to 7.2, whatever people have the most interest in.
> 	As far as time, I would think that 6 hours should be enough for a
> workstation class, perhaps separated out into two days. Evenings would be
> best so people are off work, maybe Saturday and Sunday although I am
> flexible currently. I would think between 10 and 20 people would be fine.
> 	I would like one workstation and monitor for each two students, as well as
> a projector that I can plug into my workstation. I do not have this so
> hopefully it can be provided. (I will bring my own system, and can provide
> my own monitor, but would rather not haul the monitor around if one can be
> provided.)
> 	I am thinking around $75.00 per head, but if that is too much or too
> little let me know. I have never done a formal class for this before, or
> for anything else, so I am open to suggestions from those who have. Thanks.
>
> Adrian
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Kimi A.
> Adams
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 2:41 PM
> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: Did I miss something?
>
>
> Apparently I missed something.  It's my understanding that our city is now
> without a great Network Security Administrator as George Toft has found the
> opportunity to be employed in Florida.
>
> The reason for the post though is that I would like to begin a project that
> I have been putting together.  George was going to be the Newbie Teacher
> for Linux but since he is not in town, I need a replacement.  The concept
> will be to hold classes for a variety of programs, functions or abilities
> within a room at my office location.  I would like to hold meetings with
> potential "teachers" and gather information about written material, class
> times and such.  If anyone is interested in doing classes on the west side,
> whether one time classes, periodic or weekly classes, please respond to me
> with the following:
>
> 1.  Type of class
> 2.  Do you have written material?
> 3.  Proposed length of class
> 4.  Proposed class volume
> 5.  Equipment needs
> 6.  Days or frequency and times you are available for teaching
> 7.  Proposed fees to students
>
> I also need to have listed anything else that does not fit into items above
> that would help determine class needs.  Item #7 above will include your
> costs, material costs, costs of the facility and other minor costs.  These
> fees should be very much affordable to the student and the propose class
> size.
>
> Keep in mind that this is preliminary searching and apply only if you are
> willing to make the commitment to classes, traveling, coordinating with my
> office and are willing to make a little cash!
>
> : )
>
> I will be scheduling time today for this week to create a website interface
> and such.  So, forgive me for the request for email replies.  Otherwise, to
> chit chat about this project, please call my office at 602-375-5363.  (I
> have been sick and barely have a voice today but it's strong enough to
> last!  hehe).
>
> Kimi Adams
> Unity Wave
> 13231 North 35th Avenue, Suite A11
> Phoenix, AZ 85029
> 602-375-5363
> 602-375-5370
>
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