Ok, I'm still struggling with these P100 machines that I am trying to run Star Office on. The problem is that under windows SO loads in 1 min or less, but it's not stable. Under linux it takes over 5 min to load, but is stable, but by the time it's done loading the class is partially over, so it's unacceptable... and no it's not a lack of memory problem. Anyway, in a dream last night I though it something that is so sick and twisted it might just work, but I don't know how to do it. a while ago I heard of a way to "compile" perl programs by causeing a core dump and then executing that core dump as a binary executable. I was thinking that if I could do the same thing with SO that I could load the whole thing on these slow machines in about 10 seconds.. beating windows by a lot. If anyone has any ideas how I could do this it would help me convert the school a lot easier. Brian Cluff Sequoia School ps feel free to let me know if I'm smoking crack too :)