--u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Nov 13, 2001 at 05:30:56PM -0700, Lucas Vogel wrote: > I would much rather have SF do what it can to bring in new customers and = stay > afloat than have it fold in because it can't sell what it gives away for= =20 > free.=20 If it was _their_ property, yes, I'd agree. But in this case, they're asking the developers that worked on the previously open-source SF software to hand over all IP rights, as well as the rights to any futher software that they develop that could possibly make for a good addition to SF. Additionally, if you read the article you'll notice that the developer that recieved the request to hand over his IP rights was asked to help refine the document he was supposed to sign. Again, according to the document, his requests were blatantly ignored and a worse document was mailed out to him for signing -- this one requiring that he sign all documents placed in his face by VA Linu= x. Quoting the article directly: "... when I read the details of their copyright assignment, I saw major problems. I was asked to assign copyright of my work that 'is, or may in the future be, utilized in the SourceForge collaborative software development platform'. The assignment was not limited to my contribution to the SourceForge code, it potentially covered all my past and future work if it was of some interest to SourceForge." "I was also expecting a promise that my work would be released under the GNU GPL, but the assignment said nothing about Free Software. VA Linux would be allowed to release the software I wrote under a non-free software license and not let the community have it at all." and finally, a copy of the Copyright Assignment letter quoted in the articl= e: "SourceForge Copyright Assignment Thank you for your interest in contributing software code to SourceForge. In order for us to include the code in our product, we will need you to provide us with the rights to the code. By signing this agreement, you, the undersigned, hereby assign to VA Linux all right, title and interest in and to the software code described below, and all copyright, patent, proprietary information, trade secret, and other intellectual property rights therein. You also agree to take all actions and sign all documents (such as copyright assignments or registrations) reasonably requested by VA Linux to evidence and record the above assignments." I don't know about you, but when a company -- even one like VA Linux, whom have supported the open-source community so heartily -- decides to make a power grab for software IP rights in such a broad context and then blatantly ignores the same community that they were gaining help from, they become equal to or worse than M$ in my eyes. In all honesty, this is something I'd expect from M$, not VA Linux. --=20 Thomas "Mondoshawan" Tate phoenix@psy.ed.asu.edu http://tank.dyndns.org --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE78c0hYp5mUsPGjjwRAnx9AJ9QDwgxyEGKoNxFS7zPFP1YhT0DhgCfUWC+ UFgVJicc28U4kW3Ti+rTxMc= =sv+s -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24--