I use Ximian Evolution for email. It works great and looks like Outlook. It is currently at v0.15(Beta5), but it is stable. I don't use Ximian's desktop,just Evolution and KDE.I switched to Evolution after trying KMail. W. E. Brooks On Wed, 2001-11-07 at 01:29, James Durham wrote: > I think you have covered nearly everything. Call Earthlink and speak with a > level2 tech and pass along your results. If Outlook Express works they will > point the problem as being on your computer. > > I have been having allot of hassles with Kmail just the same and have been > thinking of changing to something else. Does anyone know other GUI mail > clients that run under X(KDE/GNOME) that may be worth consideration for home > use? > > On Tuesday 06 November 2001 05:35 pm, you wrote: > > O.K. I have tried almost all suggestions that were posted. Telneting via > > "telnet mail.mindspring.com 25" worked - said it connected and all. THe > > ping -c 4 worked fine, as did the nslookup command. No jams anywhere. I > > have included the /etc/resolv.conf file if this helps. I have also changed > > my email address to borgking@mindspring.com rather than > > rick@rickrosinski.com to see if that would help, but it failed also. The > > only things I haven't done yet was to try it through outlook express. I > > will try that before calling the techs back. > > > > Any suggestions? > > > > BTW: Thanks for all of the response! > > > > > > From: "John Albee" > > > > >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > >To: > > >Subject: RE: Trouble sending email > > >Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 18:33:19 -0700 > > > > > >I am not sure as to your level of computer experience, but you may want to > > >try a manual smtp connection to mail.mindspring.com using telnet. There > > >are > > >several tutorial on the net showing how to do this. This may give you > > > some insite to your problem. > > > > > >John Albee > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > > > >[mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Rick > > >Rosinski > > >Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:50 PM > > >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > >Subject: Re: Trouble sending email > > > > > > > > >James, > > > > > >I try over and over again, resending the same message through the outbox. > > >I > > >called customer suppport, and they gave me a new dial-up number, saying > > >that > > >the old number wouldn't allow people to send email. That didn't work. He > > >told me to keep mail.mindspring.com since I am a mindspring subscriber. I > > >receive mail just fine, but I can't send the mail no matter what. I tried > > >many combinations of smtp - smtp.mindspring.com, mail.smtp.mindspring.com, > > >smtp.mail.mindspring.com, smtp.earthlink.net, mail.earthlink.net, every > > >damn > > >thing. > > > > > >Any more ideas? > > > > > >Thanks for the help. > > > > > > >From: James Durham > > > >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > > >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > > >Subject: Re: Trouble sending email > > > >Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 13:28:06 -0700 > > > > > > > > > > > >Rick, > > > > I have that same problem. I go to the outbox open the mail and try > > > > > >to > > > > > > >send again. The problem is Earthlink has filters in place so you can > > > > only use > > > >there mail servers. So if you try to use another mail server it would > > > >continuely fail. I found that it fails for me the first time because it > > > > > >has > > > > > > >to do all it's crap to verify the mail server I am connecting to. Then > > > > > >the > > > > > > >second time I try to connect it works. > > > > > > > > Allot of companies have started to take this same approach to > > > > > >stopping > > > > > > >spam. It is getting very annoying. > > > > > > > >On Saturday 03 November 2001 04:25 am, you wrote: > > > > > I just found out that I can't send email through kmail anymore. It > > > > > >says > > > > > > > > that the smtp host couldn't be found. I am an earthlink (formerly > > > > > mindspring) subscriber. My "real" email address has mindspring.com. > > > > > >I > > > > > > >was > > > > > > > > > using mail.mindspring.com for smtp. That worked until recently (the > > > > > error). So, I checked the help pages on the web, and they want > > > > > smtp.earthlink.net. I tried that, and got the same error. Nothing on > > > > > >my > > > > > > > > system has been changed (especially KDE). I kept the smtp port at 25 > > > > > >as > > > > > > >it > > > > > > > > > was before. I also tried smtp.mindspring.com, mail.earthlink.net. > > > > > > > > > > And, I don't *DARE* try earthlink technical support - they always > > > > > >assume > > > > > > > > they know more than you, and when you try asking them questions, like > > > > > > > >"What > > > > > > > > > SMTP port does your system use?", they'd answer the question with a > > > > > question, like what system and software am I using? - evading my > > > > > > > >question, > > > > > > > > > instead of them saying that "they don't know" - and they do not > > > > > >support > > > > > > > > Linux (only Windows and Mac.) > > > > > > > > > > Please help! > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > > > > > > >http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________ > > > > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail > > > > > >doesn't > > > > > > > > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > > > > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > > >________________________________________________ > > > >See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't > > > >post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > > > > >PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > > >http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > > > > >________________________________________________ > > >See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't > > >post > > >to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > > >PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > >http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > >________________________________________________ > > >See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't > > >post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > > >PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > >http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > ________________________________________________ > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss