I am not sure as to your level of computer experience, but you may want to
try a manual smtp connection to mail.mindspring.com using telnet.  There are
several tutorial on the net showing how to do this.  This may give you some
insite to your problem.

John Albee


-----Original Message-----
From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
[mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Rick
Rosinski
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:50 PM
To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
Subject: Re: Trouble sending email


James,

I try over and over again, resending the same message through the outbox.  I
called customer suppport, and they gave me a new dial-up number, saying that
the old number wouldn't allow people to send email.  That didn't work.  He
told me to keep mail.mindspring.com since I am a mindspring subscriber.  I
receive mail just fine, but I can't send the mail no matter what.  I tried
many combinations of smtp - smtp.mindspring.com, mail.smtp.mindspring.com,
smtp.mail.mindspring.com, smtp.earthlink.net, mail.earthlink.net, every damn
thing.

Any more ideas?

Thanks for the help.


>From: James Durham <helody@jps.net>
>Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
>Subject: Re: Trouble sending email
>Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2001 13:28:06 -0700
>
>
>Rick,
>     I have that same problem. I go to the outbox open the mail and try to
>send again. The problem is Earthlink has filters in place so you can only
>use
>there mail servers. So if you try to use another mail server it would
>continuely fail. I found that it fails for me the first time because it has
>to do all it's crap to verify the mail server I am connecting to. Then the
>second time I try to connect it works.
>
>    Allot of companies have started to take this same approach to stopping
>spam. It is getting very annoying.
>
>On Saturday 03 November 2001 04:25 am, you wrote:
> > I just found out that I can't send email through kmail anymore.  It says
> > that the smtp host couldn't be found.  I am an earthlink (formerly
> > mindspring) subscriber.  My "real" email address has mindspring.com.  I
>was
> > using mail.mindspring.com for smtp.  That worked until recently (the
> > error). So, I checked the help pages on the web, and they want
> > smtp.earthlink.net. I tried that, and got the same error.  Nothing on my
> > system has been changed (especially KDE).  I kept the smtp port at 25 as
>it
> > was before.  I also tried smtp.mindspring.com, mail.earthlink.net.
> >
> > And, I don't *DARE* try earthlink technical support - they always assume
> > they know more than you, and when you try asking them questions, like
>"What
> > SMTP port does your system use?", they'd answer the question with a
> > question, like what system and software am I using? - evading my
>question,
> > instead of them saying that "they don't know" - and they do not support
> > Linux (only Windows and Mac.)
> >
> > Please help!
> >
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