moin, moin, we're still trying to come up with money for an honorarium for rms' talk last Sun. We have covered his flight and other travel expenses, but since he wasn't in town on a paid gig and came in for us, we'd like to be able to give him something for his time. Please make donations to: AZOTO C/O UnityWave 13231 N 35th Avenue Suite 811 Phoenix, AZ 85029 They might not be tax deductible. They should be as the 501c3 paperwork is in and we're committed to making it happen, but I believe in being honest up front. Once the 501c3 is approved ( it will be announced here ) they are deductible. Several small donations can add up to what we need, so feel free to make a donation of just a few dollars. We do need to get the money in this week as we'll be presenting him with a check ( if we get enough donations ) at the beginning of next week on his way back to Boston. danke, der.hans -- # der.hans@LuftHans.com home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.DevelopOnline.com # I chose to use the kernel sources as my documentation. ;-) # -- Kevin Buettner