Have you tried using fuser to find out what's accessing it? If your CD-ROM is /dev/hdc, just run fuser /dev/hdc to see the PID of every process using that device. You can also do fuser -k /dev/hdc to kill whichever processes are accessing the device. ~Jeff On Tuesday, September 25, 2001, Carl Parrish wrote: > Okay whenever I try to umount my cdrom drive it tell me devise is busy > (despite the fact that I can't see anything using it). Is there anyway I > can force it to umount anyway or kill whatever is using it (how would I > find that out?). yes I've tried umount - f. > > Carl P.