OK, kids, time to move this discussion off-list.



On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, David P. Schwartz wrote:

> And I can't tell you how many motorcyclists I've nearly creamed that suddenly appeared in my way after I checked for traffic just before
> changing lanes!  Blind spots in regular cars are bad enough, but having some speeding idiot suddenly appear on my left side going fast
> enough to put him in exactly the same spot I'm about to move into is pretty scary.  I time my movements for the speed of the traffice.
> Motorcyclists moving at 20+ MPH over the traffice are putting themselves in danger, IMO.
>
> FWIW, I really don't understand what all the uproar is over cell phones.  If they are going to outlaw distractions inside the car, they
> should outlaw screaming kids, girl/boy friends, more than two teenagers in a car at once, radios, CD players, etc.
>
> It's not much different driving a car than what you're reporting on a motorcycle.  I get cut off at freeway exits quite often -- people
> drive in your right-side blind spot and pace you when there's plenty of room for them to be elsewhere, and then they get annoyed at you
> and honk for cutting them off when they have been ignoring your blinker for 1/4 of a mile...
>
> All I can say is this: It's all part of the driving experience.
>
> -David
>
> Jeffrey Pyne wrote:
>
> > Actually, I don't speed so that I arrive at my destination quicker.  I'm
> > never really in a hurry to get where I'm going.  I speed because I ride a
> > motorcycle and, for some reason, I seem to be absolutely invisible to most
> > people behind the wheel of a car.  I speed to get out of the way of that
> > SUV-driver whose cell-phone conversation is much more interesting than
> > what's going on in traffic, or that car-load of teen-agers too busy goofing
> > around to notice that they're about to run me over, or the parent too busy
> > yelling at their kids to pay attention, or that truck driver that's logged
> > too many miles and not enough coffee....  I tried driving the Double Nickel
> > on SR 51 after I got a ticket once, just to see what it was like.  It was
> > one of the scariest things I have ever done.  I watched with horror as 2
> > people had to stand on their brakes to avoid running me over because they
> > were passing someone on the right and didn't notice I was there 'til the
> > last second.  I got cut off at THREE exits between Shea and McDowell as
> > people came over from 2 lanes over to get off at the last minute.  It feels
> > more dangerous for me to go 55 than it does to go 80 (10 years and almost
> > 200,000 miles of riding and I've never been down).  Of course, if there's no
> > one else on the road, I usually keep it under 65.  Oh, and the reason I ride
> > a motorcycle in the first place (in addition to the fact that it's FUN) is
> > that I get 48 MPG (even at 80+) and contribute very little to The Valley's
> > HORRIBLE pollution problem.
> >
> > ~Jeff
> >
> > On Monday, September 24, 2001, William Lindley wrote:
> >
> > So don't speed.  All you really get to faster is the filling station and
> > the brake shop.
> >
> > Driving 65 instead of 55 saves you a few minutes at most.  Join me in
> > driving the double-nickel, even if the speed limit is higher.  Helps cut
> > our dependence on foreign oil too.
> >
> > "55 saves fuel, 55 saves lives, I drive 55."
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