Eric wrote:
> 
> "Furmanek, Greg" wrote:
> >
> > You can also ask them a question about the
> > recording:
> >
> > "I have just heard that the conversation may be recorded.
> > Are you aware of this fact?"
> >
> > Wouldn't that make the consent?
> 
> >probably...  I Would ask a laywer...  Wasn't there one around?  Does he
> >know, or is this out of his specialty?
> 
> I suppose you are referring to me.  I think the question is a trick one.
> The qwest-liar IS aware that qwest may tape-record the conversation.  But
> the qwest-liar is not aware that YOU may be taping it.  Which "fact" is
> being referred to here?  Judges don't like that kind of stuff.

That the "qwest-liar is not aware that YOU may be taping it".  

> You can try that and see what happens if you want to.  For myself, my main
> concern is to but qwest-liars.  So I would want to do it right the first
> time, and not expose myself to liability.  Just non-chalantly find out which
> state they are in.  If good, then tape it.  If not, then have the saleperson
> remit an e-mail setting forth all details you care about in writing.  This
> is not hard, and it is legal.  I cannot imagine that a sales person would
> refuse to do it, and if they do, then maybe that is because they know they
> are lying.  That is why they are qwest-liars.  Or just ask them if you can
> tape the conversation.  Watch them studder when you do...

and what if you say something like "so if you are taping this
conversation, I guess it is all right for me to do so too?"  Or does it
have to be spelled out: "I'm taping this."  They do not even give you
that courtacy...

Of course hard copy is very good too...

  EBo --