Yup, it takes me forever to get to stuff. At the last GCC meeting someone abandoned assorted books and a somewhat larger, more expensive item. Can whomever that was contact me? If they were intended as doorprizes for a meeting it's quite generous... Anyway, will the anonymous WestSide benefactor get in touch? Thanks much, Steve BTW, the fabled "TURBOLINUX Linux Foundation Pack - A Comprehensive Learning Program for Linux Professionals" will be going home with one lucky PLUGger at the Tuesday, August 21st meeting. Peeking through the shrinkwrap, it contains: Getting started: Users guide and CD-ROMS Linux fundamentals Linux Network Administration Linux System Administration Linux Professional Institute Certification Study Guide. The whole collection is housed in a stylish cardboard bookcase/box, adorned with what looks like a young Captain Kirk, gazing skyward as though inspired. Hoo-wee. I'm thinking maybe there should be a talent competition to determine who gets it. ;-)