You are correct that the park in question is Encanto Park. It's very nice: a duck pond, tons of trees, families having picnics, etc. You are mistaken about it being in a "not nicest" part of town, though. The neighborhoods surrounding the park are historic (built between 1900 and 1950) and are some of the nicest in the Valley. Homes just east of the park (Encanto-Palmcroft neighborhood) sell for as much as $250,000 to $500,000. The Del Norte neighborhood (just west of the park) is a little more reasonable ($150,000 to $300,000), as are some of the other nearby neighborhoods (Willo, Fairview Place, F.Q. Story). Homeowners there have been enjoying property appreciation of 15-35% for the last few years. They have active neighborhood associations, block watches, etc. So unless ( ! a gated community ) == ( ! nice ), I would have to disagree. Also, I live in Fairview Place, 2 blocks from Encanto Park, so I can vouch for its niceness. :) The area you're thinking of is south of I-10 (the President streets). A friend lives at 5th St. and Garfield. He's got easy access to prostitutes (male, female, transvestite) and drugs (you name it), but it's also walking distance to BOB, which is why he lives there. ~Jeff On Fri, Aug. 3 2001, Derek Neighbors wrote: I believe that is Encanto Park. It is pretty decent, but getting into the 'not nicest' part of town territory. -Derek On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Carl Parrish wrote: > I don't know the name of it but I like the park across from Phoenix > College. That should be central enough. > > Carl P. > > der.hans wrote: > > >Am 02. Aug, 2001 schwazte Jim so: > > > >>Great idea, Brian - now all we need to do is find a place to hold it. > >>Anyone know of a central location so that the easters can mix with the > >>westers? > >> > > > >There are several parks downtown. A couple alongside the 51 as well. > >