\_ SMTP quoth Craig White on 7/5/2001 16:03 as having spake thusly:
\_
\_ "David A. Sinck" wrote:
\_ > 
\_ ------
\_ I'm trying to trust you...I'm just not getting it done...

Use the big hammer, then try again.  :-)

\_ pasting your previous into new .Xdefaults gives me and then running xrdb
\_ -merge ~/.Xdefaults returns:
\_ 
\_ xrdb: colon missing on line 15, ignoring line
\_ xrdb: colon missing on line 19, ignoring line
\_ xrdb: colon missing on line 23, ignoring line
\_ xrdb: colon missing on line 50, ignoring line
\_ xrdb: colon missing on line 97, ignoring line
\_ xrdb: colon missing on line 120, ignoring line
\_ 
\_ gives me the warm fuzzies...
\_ 
\_ alas, it undoubtedly was your mailer  package inserting wraps an unseemly
\_ places - so I fixed the source up. 

Doh.  Forgot to check that...it was an x-paste rather than a insert,
my bad.

\_ did the xrdb -merge again - no errors this time / 
\_ 
\_ quit netscape / terminal / logout Xwindows
\_ 
\_ start x
\_ 
\_ start netscape - no go

You cycled too far.  When you xrdb -merge or xrdb -load, the changes
are only good for that particular session on *new* clients.

So

startx
netscape
	==> current NS hates you

startx
netscape
xrdb
	==> current NS hates you

startx
xrdb
exit
startx [clean slate again]
netscape
	==> current NS hates you

BUT

startx
xrdb
netscape
	==> my NS loves me

xrdb


FWIW, my .xsession file looks like:

xhost +127.0.0.1 
xhost -
xrdb -load .Xdefaults
xmodmap /home/sinck/.xmodmaprc
sawfish &
xset +dpms &
xscreensaver -lock-mode -no-splash &
xclock -rv -geometry 79x79+121+83 &
xset -c &
xset b 100 200 10 &
netscape -iconic -no-about-splash &
emacs -bg black -fn 6x13 -geometry 80x65+1090+335 &
xterm -T elevator -n elevator -sb -sk -sl 1500 -geometry 80x65+2-2 -bg black -fg white &
xterm -T root:elevator -n root:elevator -sb -sk -sl 500 -geometry 80x8+285+2 -fg black -bg white

Notice how I force .Xdefaults and .xmodmap before I start letting the
other applications have a merry race in the background?  If I
backgrounded xrdb, maybe NS is past the scan xrdb stage by the time
xrdb starts loading it....

Note also the last command is the lynchpin of my whole session.  Why
not a window manager?  Well after you've configured several of them
and don't quite get the syntax right, you get gunshy about losing all
your windows just because the wm bailed.  And it's really quite
instructive to run w/o a wm for a bit.


\_ but I am grateful for the pointer to xrdb hint - I can see that that is
\_ an interesting tool
\_ 
\_ xrdb -query tells you all the settings - I haven't a clue where these
\_ are stored - it doesn't appear that they are stored in ~/ or in /etc/X11
\_ (judging by file dates & times anyway).

Oh no, it's stored in the magic goat: RAM on the xserver machine.

\_ As for your going from P200 to Athlon 1.2+ and becoming delirious - how
\_ would we tell the difference?

P ONE TWENTY, thank you very much.  I used to dream about P200s.

\_ Thanks for the effort - maybe it's my Kensington Mouse in a Box Optical
\_ Pro mouse.

Nah.  Within 5 minutes of getting the hint on ZAxisMapping 4 5, I had
my mousewheel on a logitech (appropriately chorded of course) panning
my desktop and my windows (NS, emacs, xterm).

Later I added support to make it control volume, and in my most
amusing win, the resolution.  Yes.  No more of that inconvenient
ctrl-alt-keypadplus ctrl-alt-keypadminus vulcan death grip.  Nope,
that's tied to the simpler ctrl-meta-shift-mod5-button4-click1
ctrl-meta-shift-mod5-button5-click1.  Dial a resolution.  It rocks.

I've also taught emacs to respond to M-Mouse4 + M-Mouse5 (or whatever)
to roll through the undo history.

No more undo undo undo UPPERCASE swear-like-a-sailer undo undo undo
[now back at start of undo chain] undo undo undo [now back where I
borked it with uppercase instead of undo] undo undo UPPERCASE....
Just dial the pretty knob until the code is whole again.  Brain
surgery for idiots.  It's great.

Bindings for emacs and the code for the xresolution setting utilty
(did I mention it was available from the command line?) available upon
request. 

David