First, of the choices presented, I like Arizona Open Technology Association the best. Open Technology encompasses all open endevors, not just software. And "AOTA" just rolls off the tougue. Say it with me now: "Ay-Oh-Tee-Ay" It would sound good with a news anchor talking head saying it. Second, let me make sure I understand how this new NPO AOTA will work: -It is an umbrella NPO for all open technology groups to use as a resource. -If PLUG thinks it needs an NPO to do an event, it goes to AOTA to get it done. -If AZPHP thinks it needs an NPO to do an event, it goes to AOTA to get it done. -If PLUG gets some money donated to it, it belongs to PLUG which can, as an entity, contribute some or all of it to AOTA. -If AOTA get some money donated to it, it can use it for whatever needs it has, including for events not directly connected with PLUG. So the AOTA is a resource the various open technology groups in AZ can use when an NPO is needed. Alan PS If I keep calling the new NPO AOTA, maybe it will stick as the defacto standard. :^) At 01:05 PM 6/11/01 -0700, you wrote: >Well, again, if money is given to PLUG for a specific reason, it has >nothing to do with the NPO. They are separate entities. If there is >something that requires an NPO for, it should be considered carefully, in a >meeting with the NPO Board and the top people in PLUG. Don't you >agree? This NPO is being set up so that we can do certain things for the >community, not to control PLUG. Their functions would be different. In >fact, lobbying for laws is not going to be able to be done through the NPO, >therefore, we need PLUG to accomplish this. An NPO cannot lobby for or >against bills being presented for laws. I.E. that's the reason that we all >went to an attorney; to seek this kind of legal advice. > >Kimi > >At 6/11/01 12:20 PM, you wrote: >>The very reason that you see them having seperate goals is why I think we >>need to have separate NPO's I mean I'm sure *most* of the time we'll be in >>agreement. But if company X gives money to PLUG then the NPO disagrees on >>using that money for something PLUG agrees on. We'll have a problem. I'd >>rather we didn't have to deal with that. Setting up a NPO for Plug would >>allow companies to give directly to PLUG. Or if they want more bang for >>their buck they can give to the Superset group NPO. But Plug would have >>its on budgit to do its own things with. I do agree that it makes twice as >>much paperwork though. >> >>Carl P. >>