> I am still gonna need to figure out the terminal settings since the > up/down arrow, the page up/page down, home/end etc keys don't work in > emacs. (Learn vi commands is not the appropriate answer here). Dig up a copy of bash and compile it, or find a binary copy. I'd bet that there is someone that put a bsd/ppc copy of bash for easy download somewhere. That way you can ditch that stupid tcsh crap. Brian Cluff