moin, moin, while looking at a few things I ran into 'par'. This is a major cool tool for me to switch to vim for writing email. " Formats mail to 76 columns, correctly supports 'quotes'. map #p vip!par 76gqr Granted there's a bunch more stuff to what Nathan pointed out that sets the textwidth, but I'll figure all that out at another time. Same time that I'll decide if I want to automagically invoke the above mapping when replying to email. Only one thing left ( yeah, I'll find something else once I have that :). This one should be easy. Just figured out part of part of it, now the difficult part :). :map #ee :.+1,$-3g/.*/d That'll rip out everything from the current line to and including the 4th from last line. Now, instead of hardcoding $-3g, I'd like to search for and recognize a valid quoted sig, e.g. "^--$" with the sig on the following lines, and have the line before it be what $-3g is doing for me. I'd also like to get rid of the search highlighting that's left, but there's an easy, ugly workaround for that :). ciao, der.hans -- # der.hans@LuftHans.com home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.YourCompanyHere.net ;-) # Knowledge is useless unless it's shared. - der.hans