The first success was configuring Cisco PIX routers with VPN for a client without manuals or software - I'm sure that the wizard disks they talk about would streamline the process but the people that originally installed them apparently kept all that for themselves...needless to say, that's one of the reasons that this client doesn't use them anymore. Now, I just got Redhat 7.1 installed on my Sony PictureBook C1X Works nicely. Got everything but XWindows working on first try. My PCMCIA NIC card wasn't auto detected but it worked immediately on manual configuration as tulip. Seems that the pirhana hardware detection loads before the PCMCIA drivers load so other PCMCIA device install is undoubtedly manual. Thankfully the info on linux-laptop helped with XWindows cuz I wouldn't have been able to get this kinky 1024x480 screen to work. Took about 45 minutes but I am typing this from KMail (a little weak) - I'll probably have to see what you guys are all excited about with pine and maybe try out Hans' favorite bloatware - emacs. Not that anyone cares but I feel like I just scored a victory. Craig