EXACTLY!!! Thank you Kimi. Incidently 1 out of every 8 customers I check, does not qualify for DSL at all. Kimberly Secor Account Manager 480-368-4638 ext23 www.extremezone.com Extreme Internet is Ranked 2nd on The Business Journal's THE LIST for 2001 -----Original Message----- From: Kimi A. Adams [SMTP:kimi@unitywave.com] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 11:21 AM To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us Subject: Re: Good ISP For some good clarifications, let's break it down. DSL is provided by only a few "backbone" companies. Most of those are in some way attached to providers we all are familiar with. My research when Wired Global's breakdown happened is that there is lot's of problems with Covad. There is only one other good provider in the area (as is my understanding) that has it's OWN backbone. One of the major resellers is DigiZip. There may be some local loop stuff that Qwest provides, but it's just the "last mile" stuff. The service is actually (with any DSL) is from the provider. In any case, Qwest is a CLEC and a LEC as it happens. They provide (in our area) lot's of stuff for lot's of reasons. Ma Bell was bought out several layers up and then handed off to U. S. West who sold to Qwest. So, providing certain services in some areas of the city is what happens. DigiZip's backbone company has their own network and does not go through Qwest to my knowledge. Hope this clarifies some issues with the previous emails being passed out. Kimi Adams Unity Wave At 5/1/01 11:42 AM, you wrote: >You _can_ get a line with another provider other than QWest. I was >talking about Covad. Someone else mentioned DigiZip. There's also >Rhythms and a couple others. They all provide the DSL backend line. > >Eden > >From: "Derek Neighbors" > > For clarification, I meant you cant get the line from anyone other than > > QWEst. (unless things have changed) You can get any ISP you want that > > supports DSL, but the line only comes from QWest (or that has been my > > experience here in Phoenix) > > >________________________________________________ >See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't >post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > >PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss ________________________________________________ See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss