I tried to setup knapster. It didnt work. When I try to reinstall it wont let me beacuse the old one is there. How do I uninstall? I tried the package manager and it doesnt show that its installed. Linux4Lyfe >From: plug-discuss-request@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >Subject: PLUG-discuss digest, Vol 1 #980 - 13 msgs >Date: Sat, 28 Apr 2001 23:12:10 -0700 > >Send PLUG-discuss mailing list submissions to > plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > plug-discuss-request@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > >You can reach the person managing the list at > plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of PLUG-discuss digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Mandrake 7.2 (KevinO) > 2. RE: culture of *NIX (der.hans) > 3. RE: culture of *NIX (David A. Sinck) > 4. Re: Mandrake 7.2 (proudhawk@uswestmail.net) > 5. RE: culture of *NIX (Craig White) > 6. Re: culture of *NIX (Kevin Brown) > 7. RE: culture of *NIX (Craig White) > 8. Configuring a Firewall to prefer certain traffic... (Jiva DeVoe) > 9. Re: Mandrake 7.2 (foodog) > 10. Re: Configuring a Firewall to prefer certain traffic... (foodog) > 11. Re: Configuring a Firewall to prefer certain traffic... (der.hans) > 12. Re: SMTP Server (der.hans) > 13. Re: SMTP Server (Jay) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 15:42:31 -0700 >From: KevinO >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.2 >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > >Tyler Hall wrote: > > > > No, I was using windows, using Adptect CD Creator ;) > > > >Some versions of Adaptect's EZ CD Creator are known to not be able to >burn bootable CDs... > >If you can possibly manage it, you should try it under Linux, per >Gontran's suggestions... > >Also take a look at the CD-Writing HowTo at: >http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO-3.html > > >-- >Kevin O'Connor > >She can kill all your files; >She can freeze with a frown. >And a wave of her hand brings the whole system down. >And she works on her code until ten after three. >She lives like a bat but she's always a hacker to me. > -- Apologies to Billy Joel > >--__--__-- > >Message: 2 >Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 16:36:06 -0700 (MST) >From: "der.hans" >To: quatsch >Subject: RE: culture of *NIX >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > >Am 28. Apr, 2001 schwäzte Craig White so: > > > I would really like to take an office completely into open source >because I > > know it can be done, should be done in governmental offices, non-profits >and > > any business that is starting up and doesn't have a major investment in > >I agree and think it's quite possible. It does, however, take >training. Companies run into probs because they think Linux is 'free' and >don't want to train employees. Some of the same companies will send >secretaries to m$ whatever class every time a new version pops out... > > > Microsoft specific application features - I think the major weakness >here is > > 'presentation' software. Does anyone know of purely linux offices in the > >You mean like Star Office, magicpoint, Impress or the others I just found >on freshmeat while looking for a program I'd seen, but never used and can >no longer remember the name of? > >http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=presentation&filter=786 > >There's also DFBPoint, http://freshmeat.net/projects/dfbpoint/, that I see >uses the framebuffer. > >I've used StarOffice before. It worked pretty good. Used magicpoint >recently. No front end, but I like the program. Being able to generate >every by hand and not wait for a GUI is most cool and far faster than >click and drool. Being able embed commands and X programs into slides is >also cool :). > > > valley? > >est, the bru dudes, moved to a Linux environment in 1996 ( or thereabouts >). They had macntoys for publishing, but I think that was recently moved >to another platform. Might not've been Linux. > >They do devel and testing on multiple platforms because that's what they >support, but all day to day stuff is Linux. Tim Jones who was VP of >engineering there until recently said they never really had a problem with >new hires and Linux. > >ciao, > >der.hans >-- ># der.hans@LuftHans.com home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.YourCompanyHere.net >;-) ># Practice socially consious hedonism. Do whatever you want, ># as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else. - der.hans > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 3 >Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 16:58:18 -0700 >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >Subject: RE: culture of *NIX >From: "David A. Sinck" >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > > >\_ SMTP quoth Craig White on 4/28/2001 23:49 as having spake thusly: >\_ >\_ Then one day, the logs stop and I get a call from him that his very >young >\_ web programmer needs help configuring their new Windows 2000 system, >which >\_ turns out to be a pirated copy of Windows 2000 Advanced Server. > >Be Helpful. Be Honest. Call the Business Software Alliance. > >If they are being so clever as to put CC# in the bare out there, they >deserve much worse than a visit by the BSA. > >David > >--__--__-- > >Message: 4 >Date: 29 Apr 2001 18:56:13 -0700 >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >From: proudhawk@uswestmail.net >Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.2 >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > >here is how you mount an iso. >first, create a dir under mnt (call it iso) >then issue the command: mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/name_of_iso_here.iso >/mnt/iso > >then you should be able to poke around the ISO like a filesystem > > >Technomage Hawke > >On Sun, 29 April 2001, Gontran wrote: > > > Tyler, > > > > Not to exasperate you for details, but I've been duping some CDs this > > week (mac OS ... for personal backups), and I'm wondering how you copied >the > > iso onto your HDD. Did you use dd? If so, making an exact duplicate >should be > > as easy as: > > % cdrecord -v YOUR_OPTIONS_HERE my_mandrake.(iso|raw|watevr) > > > > Can you mount the iso via the loop device? From the manual( with mods >for > > situation): > > > > THE LOOP DEVICE > > One further possible type is a mount via the loop device. > > For example, the command > > > > mount /tmp/myimage /mnt -t iso9660 -o >loop=/dev/loop3,blocksize=1024 > > > > > > If you can, that's a good thing(), next since you're having problems >with > > the booting check out the boot or image dirs (idk which on that cd) and > > make sure you have some boot.cat or boot.catalogue (though it could be > > anything). If those are there, the iso is more likely bootable (not a > > thorough test, sorry) and the above cdrecord option should get you your > > bootable iso. > > > > Let's get it. > > Gontran > > > > -- > > Moby Moby Moby > > > > > > ________________________________________________ > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't >post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > >Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net > >--__--__-- > >Message: 5 >From: "Craig White" >To: >Subject: RE: culture of *NIX >Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 20:52:34 -0700 >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of David > > A. Sinck > > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 4:58 PM > > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > Subject: RE: culture of *NIX > > > > > > > > > > \_ SMTP quoth Craig White on 4/28/2001 23:49 as having spake thusly: > > \_ > > \_ Then one day, the logs stop and I get a call from him that his > > very young > > \_ web programmer needs help configuring their new Windows 2000 > > system, which > > \_ turns out to be a pirated copy of Windows 2000 Advanced Server. > > > > Be Helpful. Be Honest. Call the Business Software Alliance. > > > > If they are being so clever as to put CC# in the bare out there, they > > deserve much worse than a visit by the BSA. > > >--- >I briefly considered this - but then... > >1. I have to govern my own conscience and no one elses - I didn't work on >it, > aid in the setup, show them how to disable license checking etc or in >any > way, encourage the use of an illegal copy. > >2. They won't be the first nor the last company to hang a db on a machine > directly exposed to the internet. The scary part of this - an this >could > apply to any company that you deal with is that they could put the > database with cc#'s, the same one with telephone orders so you are in > reality, no safer calling in your cc# orders than you are ordering via > the internet. > >3. If I call BSA, it would seem like sour grapes on my part and I want any > customer that I deal with to freely choose not to use me any longer >without > fear of retribution and without fear that I will restrict their >computer > usage in any way, shape or form. I won't withhold passwords, etc. > >From what I've seen in the setup of Win2K server, it generates its own >broadcast to Microsoft servers and every network attempt to reach Microsoft >Web, Updates etc. generates some probes of ports 53 and 515 so I think they >get clued in fairly quickly anyway. It also seems to me that on May 9th, >the >30 days grace period for licensing registration ends and various services >such as terminal, file and print services will shut down. Time wounds all >heels. > >Craig > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 6 >Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 21:06:01 -0700 >From: "Kevin Brown" >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >Subject: Re: culture of *NIX >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > > 1. I have to govern my own conscience and no one elses - I didn't work >on > > it, > > aid in the setup, show them how to disable license checking etc or in >any > > way, encourage the use of an illegal copy. > > > > 2. They won't be the first nor the last company to hang a db on a >machine > > directly exposed to the internet. The scary part of this - an this >could > > apply to any company that you deal with is that they could put the > > database with cc#'s, the same one with telephone orders so you are in > > reality, no safer calling in your cc# orders than you are ordering >via > > the internet. > > > > 3. If I call BSA, it would seem like sour grapes on my part and I want >any > > customer that I deal with to freely choose not to use me any longer > > without > > fear of retribution and without fear that I will restrict their >computer > > usage in any way, shape or form. I won't withhold passwords, etc. > > > > >From what I've seen in the setup of Win2K server, it generates its own > > broadcast to Microsoft servers and every network attempt to reach >Microsoft > > Web, Updates etc. generates some probes of ports 53 and 515 so I think >they > > get clued in fairly quickly anyway. It also seems to me that on May 9th, >the > > 30 days grace period for licensing registration ends and various >services > > such as terminal, file and print services will shut down. Time wounds >all > > heels. > >If this won't hurt your conscience, then how about letting us know who this >person is if they do business on the web so that we won't put ourselves at >risk >by buying from someone who would put our CC# on a box accessible from the >web. > >--__--__-- > >Message: 7 >From: "Craig White" >To: >Subject: RE: culture of *NIX >Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 21:49:40 -0700 >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Kevin > > Brown > > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2001 9:06 PM > > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > > Subject: Re: culture of *NIX > > > > If this won't hurt your conscience, then how about letting us > > know who this > > person is if they do business on the web so that we won't put > > ourselves at risk > > by buying from someone who would put our CC# on a box accessible > > from the web. > > ________________________________________________ > >Actually, I do worry about many things here...I am reasonably confident >that >I have convinced him of the folly in putting the db on this machine and in >fact, is not currently running dbms on this machine. I am also fairly >certain that no one in this group does business with them. > >Starting nmap V. 2.54BETA7 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) >Interesting ports on (x.x.x.x): >(The 1524 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed) >Port State Service >81/tcp open hosts2-ns >135/tcp open loc-srv >389/tcp open ldap >443/tcp open https >1002/tcp open unknown >1025/tcp open listen >1026/tcp open nterm >3005/tcp open deslogin >3333/tcp open dec-notes >3389/tcp open msrdp > >TCP Sequence Prediction: Class=random positive increments > Difficulty=6376 (Worthy challenge) >Remote OS guesses: Windows 2000 RC1 through final release, Windows >Millenium >Edition v4.90.3000 > >Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 15 seconds > >Craig > >----:----|----:----|----:----|----:----|----:----|----:----| >- Craig White - PO Box 8634 - Scottsdale, Arizona - 85252 >- e-mail address ................ - CraigWhite@AzApple.com >- world wide web address ........ - http://www.AzApple.com >- e-mail my pager address ....... - 6023779752@airtouch.net >- cellular phone ................ - (602) 377-9752 >- voice/facsimile ............... - (480) 945-8445 >----:----|----:----|----:----|----:----|----:----|----:----| > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 8 >Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 22:14:14 -0700 >From: Jiva DeVoe >To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >Subject: Configuring a Firewall to prefer certain traffic... >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > >Is it possible to configure a linux firewall to prefer traffic from a >certain host? In other words, if you have 2 hosts on a network, and >one is doing a download, if the second one starts something up, it >will *NOT* be affected by the download on the first box, but the first >box's traffic will slow down to allow the second one through? > >-- >Jiva DeVoe >VP Of Software Development >Opnix, Inc. - Simply coolio bandwidth. >GPG Fingerprint: 0A17 DF84 516A 1DC4 B837 FE6D 3128 41CD 97CB 4AA7 > >--__--__-- > >Message: 9 >Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 22:26:20 -0700 >From: "foodog" >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.2 >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > >FWIW, I use just such a gimpy version of EZ CD Creator at work. Although >it won't let me create my own content and make the disk bootable, it >doesn't have problems burning bootable ISO images that I've downloaded. >... > >Now I'm wondering if I could mount a bootable ISO as a filesystem, add >my own stuff and burn it... Now I have something to play with tomorrow >when I get bored :-) > >Steve > >KevinO wrote: > > > > Tyler Hall wrote: > > > > > > No, I was using windows, using Adptect CD Creator ;) > > > > > > > Some versions of Adaptect's EZ CD Creator are known to not be able to > > burn bootable CDs... > > > > If you can possibly manage it, you should try it under Linux, per > > Gontran's suggestions... > > > > Also take a look at the CD-Writing HowTo at: > > http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO-3.html > > > > -- > > Kevin O'Connor > > > > She can kill all your files; > > She can freeze with a frown. > > And a wave of her hand brings the whole system down. > > And she works on her code until ten after three. > > She lives like a bat but she's always a hacker to me. > > -- Apologies to Billy Joel > > ________________________________________________ > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't >post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >--__--__-- > >Message: 10 >Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2001 23:14:59 -0700 >From: "foodog" >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >Subject: Re: Configuring a Firewall to prefer certain traffic... >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > >It seems to be supported under 2.2.x and up. In xconfig, under >'networking options' (kernel 2.2.19), the last entry is for "QoS and/or >fair queueing", QoS == Quality of Service, A.K.A. traffic shaping. > >From the help tab: > >CONFIG_NET_SCHED: > >When the kernel has several packets to send out over the network >devices, it has to make a decision which one to send first. This is >especially important if some of the network devices are real time >devices that need a certain minimum data flow rate. There are >several different algorithms for how to do this "fairly"; they are >called packet schedulers. ... > >According to some Redhat propaganda it's configured through IPCHAINS: > > 7.37 Why do the new 2.1.x and 2.2.x kernels use IPCHAINS instead of >IPFWADM? > > IPCHAINS supports the following features that IPFWADM doesn't: > > "Quality of Service" (QoS support) > ... >I'd suppose the (misguided) VOIP people would be a good source for >implementation details. > >Steve > >Jiva DeVoe wrote: > > > > Is it possible to configure a linux firewall to prefer traffic from a > > certain host? In other words, if you have 2 hosts on a network, and > > one is doing a download, if the second one starts something up, it > > will *NOT* be affected by the download on the first box, but the first > > box's traffic will slow down to allow the second one through? > > > > -- > > Jiva DeVoe > > VP Of Software Development > > Opnix, Inc. - Simply coolio bandwidth. > > GPG Fingerprint: 0A17 DF84 516A 1DC4 B837 FE6D 3128 41CD 97CB 4AA7 > > ________________________________________________ > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't >post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >--__--__-- > >Message: 11 >Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 00:39:16 -0700 (MST) >From: "der.hans" >To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >Subject: Re: Configuring a Firewall to prefer certain traffic... >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > >Am 29. Apr, 2001 schwäzte Jiva DeVoe so: > > > Is it possible to configure a linux firewall to prefer traffic from a > > certain host? In other words, if you have 2 hosts on a network, and > > one is doing a download, if the second one starts something up, it > > will *NOT* be affected by the download on the first box, but the first > > box's traffic will slow down to allow the second one through? > ># Speed up telnet and ssh connects ># ipchains -A ext-in -p TCP -s 0/0 23 -t 0x01 0x10 ># ipchains -A ext-out -p TCP -d 0/0 23 -t 0x01 0x10 >ipchains -A ext-in -p TCP -s 0/0 22 -t 0x01 0x10 >ipchains -A ext-out -p TCP -d 0/0 22 -t 0x01 0x10 > > ># Make pop, ftp, nntp low priority >ipchains -A ext-out -p TCP -d 0/0 ftp-data -t 0x01 0x02 >ipchains -A ext-out -p TCP -d 0/0 pop3 -t 0x01 0x02 >ipchains -A ext-out -p TCP -d 0/0 nntp -t 0x01 0x02 >#ipchains -A ext-out -p TCP -y -d 0/0 www -t 0x01 0x02 >#ipchains -A ext-out -p TCP -d 0/0 4000 -t 0x01 0x02 > >That's supposed to work for services. I'd suppose you could get it to >prefer certain IPs. Never checked to see if it really works. > >Then again, I get fairly decent ssh performance connecting to a host on >speed choice one way from a ricochet. > >ciao, > >der.hans >-- ># der.hans@LuftHans.com home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.YourCompanyHere.net >;-) ># A t-shirt a day keeps the noose (tie) away. - der.hans > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 12 >Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 00:49:39 -0700 (MST) >From: "der.hans" >To: PLUG Discuss >Subject: Re: SMTP Server >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > >Am 29. Apr, 2001 schwäzte Jay so: > > > However, the message never arrives. Yet, when I startup >sendmail||postfix > > for a few minutes, then it sends out the previously written message. > > > > So, it would seem that what I compose with the "mail" command is just > > queued, waiting for me to startup a MTA. > >Check your crons. Your MTA should run every 15 minutes to clean up the >queues even if the daemon insn't up to allow incoming mail. > > > Is there a way to get the "mail" command to send a 'single-serving' > >rm -f /usr/bin/mail >ln -s /usr/bin/pine /usr/bin/mail > >:) > >Actually, though, I thought mail attempted to call sendmail, which would >then automagically send the mail out. In any case the queue cron should >catch it. > >ciao, > >der.hans >-- ># der.hans@LuftHans.com home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.Aligo.com ># kill telnet, long live ssh - der.hans > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 13 >Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 01:37:16 -0700 (MST) >From: Jay >To: PLUG Discuss >Subject: Re: SMTP Server >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > > >Actually, your reply reminded me of something strange (read: stupid) I >noticed. When I issued "/etc/rc.d/init.d/sendmail start" it actually >started postfix (damn Mandrake). The script was set to do sendmail, and >/usr/sbin/sendmail was not a link to postfix. Come to find out, the >sendmail binary had been replaced (during the install, because I now >recall this happening on another MDK system too) with a binary script to >call postfix. A simple: > >rpm -e postfix >rpm -Uvh --force 3-SENDMAIL-RPMS.rpm > >...and its working beautifully now. Thanks! :) > >~Jay > > > >On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, der.hans wrote: > > > Am 29. Apr, 2001 schwäzte Jay so: > > > > > However, the message never arrives. Yet, when I startup >sendmail||postfix > > > for a few minutes, then it sends out the previously written message. > > > > > > So, it would seem that what I compose with the "mail" command is just > > > queued, waiting for me to startup a MTA. > > > > Check your crons. Your MTA should run every 15 minutes to clean up the > > queues even if the daemon insn't up to allow incoming mail. > > > > > Is there a way to get the "mail" command to send a 'single-serving' > > > > rm -f /usr/bin/mail > > ln -s /usr/bin/pine /usr/bin/mail > > > > :) > > > > Actually, though, I thought mail attempted to call sendmail, which would > > then automagically send the mail out. In any case the queue cron should > > catch it. > > > > ciao, > > > > der.hans > > > > > >--__--__-- > >_______________________________________________ >PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > >End of PLUG-discuss Digest _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com