Wow this likes like overkill but I like it. I'll try to get it tonight (it says there are no downloads. Can I get it from CVS?) and then present it to him on Monday. There are binaries, tarballs and cvs. Binaries\Tarballs here: http://gnue.org/index.cgi/downloads CVS Instructions here: http://gnue.org/index.cgi/cvs Hope that helps. Derek