Hello John, I work for an online PC components store, http://www.tccomputers.com . If you or anyone else on PLUG is interested, let me know. I'm with the web team, so I can't really help you to get a rebate (well, actually *maybe*, but I'd have to call in a favour from a phone-salesperson and you'd have to call in), but what I can certainly do is stalk an order, talk with tech support if an RMA is needed, etc... I'm not looking for extra sales here, I'm not making a dime more if I bring in business... Of course, ordering from a website has the typical issues... longer wait, can't "touch" the product, AZ-salestax. We don't have a retail outlet... but we have a nice dropship-matrix, so you can get pretty much *anything* when it comes to PC hardware... What I can probably help best is knowledge about products. Question about a certain motherboard, chipset, videocard or whatnot? I can probably answer it... Pick it then up from anywhere else you want if you feel so inclined... TC isn't exactly the cheapest place to shop. -Armin Sunday, April 22, 2001, 3:43:50 PM, you wrote: JA> Besides the "security" issues with the place, I am very dissapointed at the customer service or lack the of. I went there and purchased a LinkSys router(for my @home connection, I want to use my JA> linux firewall as a test system). I should not have purchased that particular one considering that it had one of those returned, but checked and guranteed to work stickers on it, but I did. JA> When I wored with it that night I found out that it was defective and a rep at LinkSys agreed so I went beck to Frys. While seeing if the "Customer Service" Manager to see if I could get a $10 JA> dollar discount or store credit(considering prices of gas this seemed fair) off the exchange for a working router being that the sticker stated that they checked the product, I was basiclly told JA> by her that they stick the stick on all returned items and put them back out. After knowing this I would prefer to find an alternative place to do my business and personal computer shopping. I JA> wouldnt even mi! JA> nd an online shop if they had detailed product descriptions and good prices. JA> Thanks, JA> John Albee JA> PS: the Frys rep. also insinuated that I broke the previously returned router. JA> ________________________________________________ JA> See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. JA> PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us JA> http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Best regards, Armin mailto:armin@pctechware.com