Well after becoming another casuality of the Cleardata fiasco, I now have a new email account. Question: I am using OpenBSD 2.8 and am having difficulty getting M$'s (I believe) VPN to work. I have a user who is trying to get OUT of my network, pass the OpenBSD box, and get access to his VPN in Germany. The software indicates that it makes a connection, attempts to validate username, blah, blah, and then just hangs. A tailing of ipflog does not show any signs of rejection, but a tcpdump shows some gre packets. I did a little research, but have failed to come up with the proper settings for ipnat.rules Anyone have any experience in getting this to work? Any bones? Mike Starke meg@csoft.net