How can I start my TELNET, FTP, HTTP daemons in Mandrake 7.2 Im having trouble. Slackware starts them automaticly. I tried doing all the above localy and remotly its not running. How do I start my services (Deamon) >From: plug-discuss-request@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >Subject: PLUG-discuss digest, Vol 1 #921 - 11 msgs >Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2001 09:37:07 -0700 > >Send PLUG-discuss mailing list submissions to > plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > plug-discuss-request@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > >You can reach the person managing the list at > plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of PLUG-discuss digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: KDE theme config? (Scarlett Gately) > 2. Re: mailing list prog access (Bob George) > 3. PLUG Devel Meetings (Deepak Saxena) > 4. Re: Routing as meeting topic: What interests the group? Your input >needed! (Bob George) > 5. RE: PLUG Presents (Lucas Vogel) > 6. live chat (was: Re: PLUG Devel Meetings ) (proudhawk@uswestmail.net) > 7. Re: PLUG Presents (Deepak Saxena) > 8. RE: PLUG Presents (Alan Dayley) > 9. Re: PLUG Presents (Bob George) > 10. pgp test (Lucas Vogel) > 11. Re: PLUG Presents (Jim) > >--__--__-- > >Message: 1 >From: Scarlett Gately >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >Subject: Re: KDE theme config? >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:46:51 -0700 >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > >On Tuesday 10 April 2001 09:25, you wrote: > > i downloaded 50 themes from themes.org > > > > how do I enable my themes through KDE? I used the LOOK N FEEL it doesnt > > offer any options > > >Are you using kde1 or kde2? > >Scarlett > > Please help > >--__--__-- > >Message: 2 >From: "Bob George" >To: >Subject: Re: mailing list prog access >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:54:18 -0700 >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > >"Alan Dayley" wrote: > > > > Any particular reason why you are posting encrypted replies to the list? > > Without the key, they don't help me. ;^) > >Well, if you'd READ the message, you'd know! Sheesh! > >- Bob > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 3 >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:05:07 -0700 >From: Deepak Saxena >To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us, >plug-devel@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >Subject: PLUG Devel Meetings >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > >Alrighty then. Time to get PLUG-devel meetings started. We've discussed >this a little in steering and decided that since we already have 3 meetings >a month at the moment, we're going to stick to plug-devel meetings only >every other month. The key question is on what day? At some point, while >discussing the west side meetings,someone posted a list of what meetings >happend on what day. Anyone still have that info? > >~Deepak > > >-- >Deepak Saxena - deepak@csociety.purdue.edu - phone://602.790.0500 > >MontaVista Software, Inc. - Powering the Embedded Revolution - >www.mvista.com > >Audiences today lack all ability to comprehend anything artistic. Having no >grasp of metaphor, subtlety, or allusion they want instead everything >direct, >predictable, and simplistic. > >--__--__-- > >Message: 4 >From: "Bob George" >To: >Subject: Re: Routing as meeting topic: What interests the group? Your input > needed! >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 10:44:10 -0700 >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > >"foodog" wrote: > > > Bob, personally I don't mind the occasional semi-black box... I'd like a > > little bit of #1 followed up with some realworld application via #3. > > > > My immediate interest is understanding what would be required to get a > > vtun VPN up and running between home and work, FWIW. :-) > >Actually, the distributed cooperative lab I referred to is based on the use >of (as-yet unencrypted) GRE tunnels between both Cisco and Linux devices >for >exchaning BGP routes. The tunnels are more of an iproute issue, but we can >include some notes. > >- Bob > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 5 >From: Lucas Vogel >To: "'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'" > >Subject: RE: PLUG Presents >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:26:44 -0700 >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > >-----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- >Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use > >hQCMAylA8LjISNKLAQQAvH/QvajGoZykRzsjF8iTUQJzZTPeQagPzKjAlqxyxnEY >qYDvH8FWczTzEqD5hSr/nDv4DyVOZcrkBqhuY5Eu0VtPUaxhQrAzlAW3TKUz0ijf >ULhxSRGIq/7iirZZCTLhwWRepiGHywDuWhD1oimI4ySSt+dQ5odwm3fJopEYB7il >C2itDb8EXXObx542WlT2WokwPcZGijeLN7MBhNRsLSgzBF/7eXK2bEMzwN9Swdrv >kzs7+SLktbhn2STG3BHvYE9gvUrQypHBGdQGIdoq2YoyZSU9lKSEQNCyZvRPd1kx >bNVAvU5ihh/lFbKXoLN4BVfSaQtOQWb1KkpL/fCkcTD7EXquC8uGWQu0JyfALowg >VZomnLRsIPUy69U/ZVViRO2hqz4MWUrPViefIBQq40khySSoXtgEDTAEfYo1Qzif >/EpfXXB1QIAiWszcd3CjGzm7xFA1OCyhNE4iBGeYurW+9b1iwqQeN8LpCCiu/2Tl >+B4KkW32Sb8mjMY759VYLFFhNzAPy2zqzA45/5H5aQ7R+eLratcmTJ27Lfu1/E2k 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one of 5 servers). >you can access chan linux on the following servers: >pretorian.ath.cx 6667 >blueseed.ath.cx 6667 >karma.ath.cx 6667 >pcman.ath.cx 6667 > >live chat can occur concurrently to the meetings as well as any other time >(we also need a stable userbase). so use the service (thats what I'm >offering). > >Also, I'd like to offer my services for newbies who need systems setup. I'm >getting >pretty good with most flavors of linux, still need practice with BSD and >solaris. > >let me know guys.... > > >On Tue, 10 April 2001, Deepak Saxena wrote: > > > > > > > Alrighty then. Time to get PLUG-devel meetings started. We've discussed > > this a little in steering and decided that since we already have 3 >meetings > > a month at the moment, we're going to stick to plug-devel meetings only > > every other month. The key question is on what day? At some point, >while > > discussing the west side meetings,someone posted a list of what meetings > > happend on what day. Anyone still have that info? > > > > ~Deepak > > > > > > -- > > Deepak Saxena - deepak@csociety.purdue.edu - phone://602.790.0500 > > > > MontaVista Software, Inc. - Powering the Embedded Revolution - >www.mvista.com > > > > Audiences today lack all ability to comprehend anything artistic. Having >no > > grasp of metaphor, subtlety, or allusion they want instead everything >direct, > > predictable, and simplistic. > > ________________________________________________ > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't >post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > >Signup for your free USWEST.mail Email account http://www.uswestmail.net > >--__--__-- > >Message: 7 >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 13:42:34 -0500 >From: Deepak Saxena >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >Subject: Re: PLUG Presents >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > >Please stop encrypting your messages unless you tell us whos public >key you're encrypting with and we can get their private key. :) > >~Deepak > >On Apr 10 2001, at 11:26, Lucas Vogel was caught saying: > > > > -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- > > 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- deepak@csociety.purdue.edu - phone://602.790.0500 > >MontaVista Software, Inc. - Powering the Embedded Revolution - >www.mvista.com > >call me 'evil' call me 'tide is on your side' anything that you want >anybody knows you can conjure anything by the dark of the moon > - Tori Amos, "Suede" > >--__--__-- > >Message: 8 >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:45:17 >To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us >From: Alan Dayley >Subject: RE: PLUG Presents >Cc: Lucas Vogel >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > >Lucas! All your posts are encrypted. 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PLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > >http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > >/------------------------------------------ >|Alan Dayley www.adtron.com >|Software Engineer 602-735-0300 x331 >|ADayley@adtron.com >| >|Adtron Corporation >|3710 E. University Drive, Suite 5 >|Phoenix, AZ 85034 >\------------------------------------------- > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 9 >From: "Bob George" >To: >Subject: Re: PLUG Presents >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:56:04 -0700 >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > >"Alan Dayley" wrote: > > > Lucas! All your posts are encrypted. We can't read them. > >Speak for yourself! I'm piping his messages through distributed.net and >should have all the answers in, oh, 14 years or so. > >- Bob > > >--__--__-- > >Message: 10 >From: Lucas Vogel >To: plug1 >Subject: pgp test >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 11:59:39 -0700 >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >sorry guys > >=========================== >Lucas Vogel >Exponent, Inc. >lvogel@exponent.com >623-587-6739 work >623-587-4191 fax >=========================== >http://www.exponent.com > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use > >iQCVAwUBOtNXNilA8LjISNKLAQHn7AP8C0psIPDgaNU0TuAUHqzRz6h44E97rjO/ >FQq9E0k6ythqwodSYdwXBuiXPXMlTYE9GZEenxpRFPS0vJXJIXAEeeopLnQ7E0Ja >1AHLKCgMuj+Une7iz9HiqPIx+oqqVraqtNV5z+DmlNGG7uS+5l5wL8JRHtQd5Vcz >mluMv4Fqh8s= >=hmNP >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > >--__--__-- > >Message: 11 >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 12:01:31 -0700 >From: "Jim" >To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >Subject: Re: PLUG Presents >Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > >On Tuesday 10 April 2001 10:39, you wrote: > > I actually looked at it the first time posted but have been percolating > > it in my head for a while. I think this is something we should > > definetely do. Here are a couple of suggestions/questions/action items > > in completely random order as I pull them out of my head. > > > > 1) Is this going to be a conference only or conference/exhibit thing? > > You mention a PLUG booth, so I have this image of an exhibit floor. > > I suggest that this be a conference only type thing. > >No vendor exhibits? I think, and have been checking to see if we can get >two 5,000 sq ft rooms - one for conferences, one for exhibits > > > > 1a) WE DO NOT WANT RICHARD STALLMAN > > > > 2) Get ASULug involved. Young, motivated people, good exposure for > > them, etc, etc. > >Wanted to see if we had enough support in PLUG before I contacted Monika > > > > 2a) WE DO NOT WANT RICHARD STALLMAN > > > > 3) Is this a local only event or is this something we want to open up > > to the outside world to? But keep it limited. Something like Ottawa > > Linux Symposium, which only allows like 1000 people. If we're trying > > to get exhibitors, it will be much more compeling for them to come > > here if there are lots of people showing up. But..one of the reasons > > I think exhibitors might be an issue is that ALS is just after this > > and LinuxWorld is just before this, so people might not be willing to > > spend cycles on a new event that hasn't proven itself. > >According to Rebecca Sobel at LWN there is and embedded conference in >Boston Sept 4-7 and an O'Reilly P2P conference in DC Sept 17-20. Those >are the only competition that I was aware of > > > > 3a) WE DO NOT WANT RICHARD STALLMAN > > > > 4) Can people register only for one day or do they register for both > > days? > >I was hoping for on-line, mail, and walk-in registration. Kimi says she >can do the on-line part > > > > 4a) WE DO NOT WANT RICHARD STALLMAN > > > > 5) I propose shortening the time slots for speakers and making them 1:15 > > hour only. 1 hour talk, 15 minutes q/a. From my experience at > > conferences and from talking to "presentation consultants", people start > > loosing interest after the first 45 minutes unless it's really really > > lively. Here's a slightly modified schedule. I've also proposing a > > break between each session, so that people can mingle, grab drinks, > > bathroom, etc, etc. > > > > 07:30 - 08:30 Registration > > 08:30 - 09:00 Welcome/Breakfast(?) > > 09:00 - 10:30 Opening keynote (Alan Cox? :) > > 10:45 - 12:00 Session 1 > > 12:00 - 13:15 Lunch > > 13:30 - 14:45 Session 2 > > 15:00 - 04:15 Session 3 > > 16:30 - ??:?? BOFs > > - Put out a call for BOFs on the web site > > - Ending time depends on each BOF and when the > > site(bar :) closes > > Day2 > > > > 08:00 - 08:30 Registration > > 08:30 - 09:00 Welcome/recap > > 09:00 - 10:30 Session 4 > > 10:45 - 12:00 Session 5 > > 12:00 - 13:15 Lunch > > 13:30 - 14:45 Session 6 > > 15:00 - 17:00 Panel Q/A > > 17:00 - ??:?? BOFs > >Schedule is open to discussion > > > > Something else to think of is whether we want a technical and a > > business track. The keynote would be first, and than during each > > following speaker time slot we'd have two parallel presentations, and > > than the Q/A session with everyone involved. > >Two tracks mean more speakers, more expense > > > > > 5a) WE DO NOT WANT RICHARD STALLMAN > > > > 6) What's a good site in town? We don't have a convention center > > yet AFAIK. > >I have some responses, mostly from Mesa so far - still working on the site > > > > 6a) WE DO NOT WANT RICHARD STALLMAN > > > > 7) Another position is web site/machine admin. Someone to run the > > machine that will host the web site plus setup the registration > > forms, etc, etc. > >Anyone can code tables for a website - I think Kimi might volunteer > > > > 7a) WE DO NOT WANT RICHARD STALLMAN > > > > 8) Other possible speakers: > > > > Larry Augustine > > Ted T'so > > Linus (I can dream can't I?) > > Bob Young > > Bruce Perens > > Miguel Icaza(sp) > > Someone from MV :) > > NOT Richard Stallman > > > > Action Items. > > > > The following are things that IMHO we need to get done in the next two > > to three weeks(end of month) if we're going to get this thing going: > > > > - Checking account (do we need non-profit status??) > > - Physical meeting of all volunteers to organize things > > (This thursday during/before/after regular meeting) > > - Start getting volunteers (someone ping ASULUG) > > o Once volunteers are setup, we should have weekly IRC meetings > > and meet physically at least once a month, probably more often > > as we get closer. > > - Register domain (linuxat10.org??) plus get a dedicated machine > > with a mailing list for announcemnts to the world and get the > > web site setup. > >Agreed. I will make sure the issue is brought up on Thu and see who else >is willing to volunteer. > > > > ~Deepak > > > > ps: My Stallman rants come from having seen the man speak several > > times. All he does is rant about GNU this and GNU that and > > "we're not OpenSource, we're free" blah blah blah. The man > > received a $25K community award at LinuxWorld and proceeded > > to get on stage and do nothing but bitch about how it should be > > GNU/Linux. > > > > On Apr 08 2001, at 08:55, Jim was caught saying: > > > Now that the lists are back up and running, maybe I can get some more > > > response to my proposal at > > > > > > http://www.users.qwest.net/~farli/Linux10.html > > > > > > I have done some preliminary contacts and we CAN do this. I CAN'T do > > > it alone tho. Robert Leonard has expressed his interest and I am sure > > > I can count on Paul and a few others, but IF we proceed with something > > > like this, it is gonna take a lot more than three or four people. > > > > > > At least take the time to read the proposal. > > > -- > > > Jim > > > > > > Bliss comes from within, ignorance from without > > > ________________________________________________ > > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail > > > doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > > > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >-- >Jim > >Bliss comes from within, ignorance from without > > >--__--__-- > >_______________________________________________ >PLUG-discuss mailing list - PLUG-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us >http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > >End of PLUG-discuss Digest _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com