This brings up a humorous point.  We were in a meeting celebrating
the launch of a major project.  The room is full of managers and Unix
Engineers.  We were talking about college, and I asked "So how many
here have Computer Science degrees?"  Answer: Three (out of 15).  The
field is hurting for CS majors.  The Client (I'm a Unix Ho) is 
converting their NT people to Unix because there are so few of us.

George


Joel Dudley wrote:
> 
> I am going to disagree on one point. You don't necessarily need to get a CS
> degree. Go to college for something you want to learn, and that you can't
> easily teach yourself. I got a microbiology degree and after I graduated I
> was hired as a Unix sysadmin. If you are going to do computers as a job then
> go to school for it. If computers is your passion and you want to get paid
> for it, go to school for another one of your interests and gain work
> experience (school help desk, etc). Just my opinion though and I am sure
> that many will disagree.
> 
> Joel Dudley
> Unix System Administrator
> DevelopOnline.com
> ----------------------------------------
> "For the scientist who has lived by his faith in the power of reason, the
> story ends like a bad dream. He has scaled the mountains of ignorance; he is
> about to conquer the highest peak; as he pulls himself over the final rock,
> he is greeted by a band of theologians who have been sitting there for
> centuries."
> - Dr. Robert Jastrow, Founder Goddard Space Flight Institute
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Deepak Saxena [mailto:deepak@csociety.purdue.edu]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 11:07 AM
> To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> Subject: Re: Advice
> 
> My opinions (which i will probably get flamed for)
> 
> 1) Get some cheap hardware and start learning how to do things on your
>    own as was mentioned before
> 2) With those skills get an entry level job somewhere
> 3) Save money and get a degree in CS, but while getting a degree in CS
>    make sure you take some classes in low level stuff like architecture.
>    Or if a full college degree is not what you're interesested in, just
>    take the relevant classes or pick up a book.  The key is don't
>    just learn how to setup a network and a web server, etc, learn how
>    this stuff works.
> 
>    Why step 3 you make ask? b/c IMHO having a good understanding of
>    how computers work from top to bottom instead of just how to
>    use the tools to do the job will let you do your job much better.
>    It will also make you much more flexible down the road and I
>    think it makes it easier to pick up new technologuies.
>    People may disagree with this, but I have seen enough IT people
>    (both Windows and Un*x) who have NO CLUE about how computers actually
>    works that I would highly reccomend as much as you can about
>    computers, not just high level networking stuff.
> 
> ~Deepak
> 
> On Mar 21 2001, at 10:02, Tyler Hall was caught saying:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > I need your guy's advice,  I'm hoping to get into the field of networking
> in the near future.  Such as, managing a school or a company's network.
> I'm going to school right now at Chandler-Gilbert Community College, to get
> this stupid degree in "Microsoft Networking"  I think it's a waste of my
> time and money.   I'm looking for someone that is in that field, and would
> be willing to tell me, what steps I should take.  I currently just graduated
> from high school, so i'm still young.   Any advice would be helpful.
> >
> > Please reply privately, so we don't disturb the public list :)
> >
> > Tyler Hall
> >
> > "Goddam it, you'll never get the Purple Heart hiding in a foxhole! Follow
> me!"
> > - Captain Henry P. "Jim" Crowe (Guadalcanal, January 13, 1943)
> 
> --
> Deepak Saxena - deepak@csociety.purdue.edu - phone://602.790.0500
> 
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