I may not be a "Black Belt" in TCP/IP, SMTP, and subnetting though I do have a really strong understanding of them. OSI model probably 1st degree black belt. I can make cables, might have to check my notes depending on wether it was a 568A or 568B that was required. Now, Unix filesystems I am just beginning with but, the fact of the matter is that cert. degree or whatever seems employers want two-threee years exp. How does one get this? I have two years doing all kinds of things for friends, family and the "my brother knows this stuff" kind of jobs but nothing proffessional and I can't get in the door. The unending paradox, No job no experience, No experience no job!! > > At 01:17 PM 3/21/01 -0700, you wrote: > >Greetings Tyler, > > > >Allow me to insert my 2 bytes here. > > > >As a hiring IT/IS Director/Manager for 4 years at several companies, I can > >tell you that the one thing that counts above all others is experience, > >experience, experience and experience. I have seen hundreds of resumes > > for SysAdmins. I don't care if you have a Masters in Electro-Warp Core > > Technology or an Associates in Basketweaving. If you don't understand > > TCP/IP, subneting, SMTP, Unix file systems, computer hardware, etc... you > > would be of no use to me. > > ---- > /------------------------------------------ > > |Alan Dayley www.adtron.com > |Software Engineer 602-735-0300 x331 > |ADayley@adtron.com > | > |Adtron Corporation > |3710 E. University Drive, Suite 5 > |Phoenix, AZ 85034 > > \------------------------------------------- > > > ________________________________________________ > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- John W