This is very refreshing! A hiring manager that doesn't automatically throw you out because you don't have the paper! Excellent! One question: When interviewing canidates, degreed/certified or not, how do you determine if they "don't understand TCP/IP, subneting, SMTP, Unix filesystems, computer hardware, etc..." or not? Just curious. Alan At 01:17 PM 3/21/01 -0700, you wrote: >Greetings Tyler, > >Allow me to insert my 2 bytes here. > >As a hiring IT/IS Director/Manager for 4 years at several companies, I can >tell you that the one thing that counts above all others is experience, >experience, experience and experience. I have seen hundreds of resumes for >SysAdmins. I don't care if you have a Masters in Electro-Warp Core >Technology or an Associates in Basketweaving. If you don't understand >TCP/IP, subneting, SMTP, Unix filesystems, computer hardware, etc... you >would be of no use to me. ---- /------------------------------------------ |Alan Dayley www.adtron.com |Software Engineer 602-735-0300 x331 |ADayley@adtron.com | |Adtron Corporation |3710 E. University Drive, Suite 5 |Phoenix, AZ 85034 \-------------------------------------------