Jim wrote: > lurking in the audience last night, waiting to just jump all over Jiva? That would be me. Was it your impression that I was "waiting to..jump all over Jiva?" If so, that wasn't my intent. I tried to correct inaccurate statements (of which there were very few) but I strictly leave any opinions alone. I had intended to sit totally quiet for the meeting since I had never heard a user do a presentation on KDE. It's always been either me or another KDE developer doing the talking. It was interesting to hear what was said (and what wasn't!) and what areas were covered. > Good thing Jiva prefers KDE over Gnome ::grin:: It really wouldn't have mattered. I go to nearly all the major Linux expos and shows so I have run into hundreds of Gnome fans.. many of which try their darndest to get some sort of rise out of me. I've long decided on a policy to never contradict opinions (waste of time) and only deal with the facts. -- Kurt Granroth | http://www.granroth.org KDE Developer/Evangelist | SuSE Labs Open Source Developer granroth@kde.org | granroth@suse.com KDE -- Conquer Your Desktop