Hmm..that wasn't supposed to yet...i thought i postponed it. Anyways, last thoughts: 4) Diversify topics (this was already pointed out). Remember: Not everyone who uses linux is a system administrator. Ok, that's my ranting. I know I haven't done my fair share to make things better, but i do keep trying. I will get the devel group of the ground this time, I swear. :) ~Deepak On Mar 08 2001, at 00:02, Deepak Saxena was caught saying: > > (cc:ing steering as I know some read that more often :) > > My takes on some of these, plus other ideas spread throughout below. > Really wish I could have been there. Sigh. No more travel for a few > weeks though. I may get flamed for some of what I say, so flame > shields are on high. > > > can to continue to encourage others to have meetings in other parts of the > > Valley. We might hold one of the main meetings at new locations as they > > open up as a means of giving them more support. This goes against the > > rule of consistently having meetings at the same place/time, though > > :(. We'll have to decide this as a group as new meetings open up. > > As I mentioned in the steering list, I'm going to try to get a separate > dev group going every month. I need to think about how to run this > b/c we already have a perl group and a php group in town, and I don't > really want to cross into their turf. I'd like this to focus specifically > on development ON linux. So things like gtk, qt, kernel haxoring, > autoconf, optimizing with gcc, kgdb, etc, etc. Not how to access a > database with php or how to write cool java applets. That's for the php > and java(is there one in town?) groups to discuss. > > > Hans will give Jim a list of places that he believes would host meetings > > for us. Jim will post that to the discuss list. > > Cool. I'd love to offer MV, but Hans has been to our offices and knows > how tiny they are. :( > > > Paul and Carl are going to work working up a 10 year celebration. They're > > gonna try to get us someone who who has helped it come this far for a > > keynote speaker. Paul is interested in making it a one or two day seminar. > > ALAN COX baby! :) A one day seminar is a big thing to go for. We need > some major corp. sponsors and really interesting topics. Let me know > how I can help. > > > It was suggested to shorten the presentations some in order to give people > > more time to kibitz after the main presentation. Maybe even form SIGs > > after the main presentation. A couple of people thought that went well > > after the alternative architectures meeting, e.g. clusters around Monte > > Vista embedded and iPaqs. > > This was one of my big things I wanted to bring up. I suggested that > when we announce that meetings start @ 7pm, the presentation will start > by 7:15 AT THE LATEST. I read slashot, lwn, linux.com, linux journal, > etc as the most people here and I think it's redundant to spend almost > one hour sometimes, discussing things that took place maybe three weeks > ago. That's what this list is for IMHO. Something interesting is posted > on slashdot (that's rare these days), and we discuss it here. Don't get > me wrong, I'm not saying that we shouldn't have open discussions about > recent news at the meetings, but the main priority should be getting the > presentation done. I propose that we restructure the meetings to be: > > 1) "Hello", plug related announcements > 2) Presentation + q/a (limit this to 1:15 unless its like Alan Cox) > 3) Open announcements (php group, jobs, slashdot news, etc, etc) > 4) People hanging out/bsing/whatever till end time. > > This way those of us that are extremely pressed for time can just show up, > watch the presentation and head out. > > OK, now some of the other things I wanted to bring up: > > 1) This topic keeps coming up every so often, but with us wanting > to do a 1-2 day thing for the 10th aniversary, I think it might > be time to revisit. Non-profit status. I think this would help > us a lot as it would be easier to get companies to donate money > which could be used for things like advertising, equipment, a > dedicated high end server/connection, etc, etc. > > 2) Try to get more people from companies (in/out of town) to come > talk. > > 3) Focus on linux related topics for meetings. We've gotten much > better, but in the past we've had some topics which IMHO are not > linux related (speedchoice pops to mind). It's a cool subject, yes, > but let's focus on growing the linux community and knowledge base > in the valley. > > > > -- > Deepak Saxena - deepak@csociety.purdue.edu - phone://602.790.0500 > > Code Monkey, MontaVista Software, Inc. - THE Embedded Linux Experts > > call me 'evil' call me 'tide is on your side' anything that you want > anybody knows you can conjure anything by the dark of the moon > - Tori Amos, "Suede" > > ________________________________________________ > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Deepak Saxena - deepak@csociety.purdue.edu - phone://602.790.0500 Code Monkey, MontaVista Software, Inc. - THE Embedded Linux Experts call me 'evil' call me 'tide is on your side' anything that you want anybody knows you can conjure anything by the dark of the moon - Tori Amos, "Suede"