>Can we at least get something in Central PHX? Has anyone checked into GCC as a possible meeting place? IIRC they have a very active computer program, and this might be a good place to look into. I live on the east side, so i'm happy with the current locations, as Hans stated, you can get one anywhere "YOU" want, and you might even get some assistance. >>I was glad to hear that thing I went to at Viking Systems(?) somewhere around last October was an "installfest"; seemed like a bunch of people >>waiting for something to happen, accented by a few anxious jobseekers canvassing the attendees... >>Not quite everything I'd dreamed of, you might say ;-) > > > > > > > > Hoping for the best, > > > > > > > > Steve > > > > I enjoy the lists in any case :-) The guy's at vikings were kind enough to allow the use of thier facility, but i'm not sure what you were expecting? As this is a User Group, by the users for the users of the users, were you expecting to be entertained, educated, enlightened, spoonfed? Did you bring a computer to install? were you there to assist others install? were you there to be assisted in a config issue? I would have loved to attended last nite's steering committee meeting, to have actively participated, but a little thing called work got in the way. I have volunteered to assist lucas with co-ordinating presentations as he needs it, i have presented at asulug and various other user groups around the valley, I do what i can given my limited knowledge. Fortunately plug has an excellent and motivated group of people driving this forward, but they also have jobs/families and other responsibilities, If you have an idea, or can present something that you like please step forward. It does not need to be a phd thesis, or a full meeting long presentation, imho, it's better if they are shorter. The comment about the jobseekers seemed a little crass and condescending, one of the greatest value's for me with the various user groups is the ability to quickly and efficiently network with others in the same field. I have received numeorus leads and consulting gigs from these memberships. If you take the attitude with user groups "if it is to be it's upto me" you'll have a far more enjoyable experience.