I wanted to come tonight, but now it looks like I can not. I just wanted every to know that I would support a development type group and I would be more than happy to give presentations about software development, ISO 9000, CMM, Testing, and other areas. Since I work, teach, and go to school I do not have the time to run the group right now, but I would be more than happy to help out with education in software development. Thank You, David Demland Qa/Testing Manager CADTEL Systems, Inc. 11201 N. Tatum Ste. 200 Phoenix, AZ 85028 (602) 953-4888 Fax: (602) 953-4833 ddemland@cadtel.com