Second! > -----Original Message----- > From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of > der.hans > Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 11:26 AM > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: PLUG-ing BSD was Re: qmail install > > > Am 17. Feb, 2001 schwäzte Jean Francois so: > > > I have noticed, as I am sure all of you have, that there are a few > > heretics among us that have been recommending one of the BSDs to Linux > > users when they are having problems. > > I don't consider you heretics. I see you as recon, experimenting with > other systems who then report findings back to us. Eventually you will > find the *one true path* and return to us ;-). > > > Is this a good time to start discussing what BSD User Groups are > > available and maybe moving to/starting a new mailing list for the BSD > > users among us to take the off-topic posts off of the PLUG list? > > I don't consider them off-topic. Part of using Linux is knowing when > something else might be appropriate. > > > Sooner or later the Linux vs. *BSD Holy Wars will hit the list and I > > prefer not to have to go thru that....again... > > Discussions about which is better for this or that or in general are > good. Anyone that takes it as holy war needs to calm down. The same for > dist holy wars[1]. > > > Another suggestion might be to slightly modify the PLUG charter to > > be inclusive of all Free Operating Systems and Software. > > Good idea, but I suggest limiting that (for now) to *NIX-based or > *NIX-like, free, open source stuff. Occasional semi-offtopic stuff like > questions about commercial, non-open-sourced *NIXen or getting (X)emacs or > perl to run on M$ or OS/2. > > I'd like to see more *BSD and Hurd stuff on the list. Both are interesting > and important to our community. > > Remember that these are my opinions. Feel free to agree or disagree with > them based upon their merits and know that I can be out-voted. > > Also please show up on Mar 1 (a week from Thu) at Sequoia to let us know > how you feel about this and other items important to building the best > PLUG we can. This can include dramamtic changes such as becoming the > PBLUG, e.g. Phoenix *BSD and Linux Users Group, or the POSUG, e.g. Phoenix > Open Source Users Group, but we'd have to wait to announce that until > after rms has spoken or he'll never show up :). Guess we could do PFOSUG > though. Maybe PFaiSUG, e.g. Phoenix Free, as in Speech, User Group. > > Please think about other topics such as what the web site committee, devel > group and security group should be doing. > > Should we do more to encourage install-fests or SIGs at the Thu meetings? > > Should we have other meetings at other parts of town? > > Should we have concurrent meetings in other parts of town where people can > show up together to watch the web-cast? > > Should we resurrect the initiative to help schools and non-profits get > Linux/*BSD in place? > > Should we as a group attempt to work on a particular Open Source project? > > Should we do more to get food and drink at the meetings? > > Do we need a baby changing station at meetings? > > Do we have other speakers beside rms we'd like to corral into talking for > us? > > Do we want to get involved with ITEC again? > > What topics do we want covered at the meetings? > > Are there particular types of news items that we want to see? > > Are we interested in doing a PLUG picnic or PLUG laser tag event? > > Do we want to start a Friends of the LUG list for > spouses/family_members/friends who wonder where the hell it is we go one > or more times a months :)? > > Whatever else you think is important for PLUG or that will make it more > useful to you. Please also consider ways you can help to make PLUG better. > > ciao, > > der.hans > > [1] We all know that debian is the *one true dist*, but we continue > allowing the heathens to walk among us hoping one day they will see the > light ;-). > -- > # der.hans@LuftHans.com home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.YourCompanyHerenet ;-) # Stell dir vor, es ist Krieg und keiner geht hin... ________________________________________________ See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss