My thoughts exactly, Trent. Also, who else has more money, power, and influence to mount a legal attack against GPL/LGPL/ect. If they can poke holes in the legal protections guaranteed by the Open Source licenses, the end is near. On Friday 16 February 2001 11:13, you wrote: > Hardly clueless, but obviously scared. > > MS is signaling the start of a *major* disinformation campaign. OS > market share is obviously partly in play, but arguing open source is > anti-competitive would indicate Microsoft is making a strategic move. > > Maybe they want to eliminate GNU or Java style licenses. Also, much > open source software seems to be developed by quasi-cartels. An IBM - > SUN cartel disguised as an open source collaboration should frighten > Microsoft. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of > > Deepak Saxena > > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 10:21 AM > > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > Subject: Re: Interesting MS Comments > > > > > > > > It shows how clueless and scared Microsoft is about open source at the > > moment. > > > > ~Deepak > > > > On Feb 16 2001, at 09:12, Lucas Vogel was caught saying: > > > Not only was this posted on Slashdot yesterday, but it had over > > > > 1300 or so > > > > > comments posted to it. > > > > > > It's a good insight to the views some of the MS executives have on > > > open source, but I really don't think it has any teeth - even if MS > > > does. > > > > > > IMHO, > > > > > > Lucas > > > > > > > > > =========================== > > > Lucas Vogel > > > Exponent, Inc. > > > lvogel@exponent.com > > > 623-587-6739 work > > > 623-587-4191 fax > > > =========================== > > > http://www.exponent.com > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Jeffrey Pyne [mailto:jpyne@worldatwork.org] > > > > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 10:03 AM > > > > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > > > Subject: Interesting MS Comments > > > > > > > > > > > > I saw a link to this article on another list and found it amusing: > > > > > > > > http://quote.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?T=marketsquote99_news.ht& > > > > s=AOospdBaQTWl > > > > jcm9z > > > > > > > > (If it hasn't already been posted to Slashdot, I'm sure it will > > > > soon.) > > > > > > > > A couple excerpts: > > > > > > > > "Microsoft Corp.'s Windows operating-system chief, Jim > > > > Allchin, says that > > > > freely distributed software code such as rival Linux could > > > > stifle innovation > > > > and that legislators need to understand the threat." > > > > > > > > -and- > > > > > > > > "I'm an American, I believe in the American Way," he said. "I > > > > worry if the > > > > government encourages open source, and I don't think we've done > > > > enough education of policy makers to understand the threat." > > > > > > > > Well heck afire! I didn't realize that Linux was UNAMERICAN. I > > > > am unsubscribing from this list immediately, and when I get home I > > > > am going to > > > > blow away my Slackware 7.1 installation (evil, evil!) and > > > > install Windows > > > > 2000. (To do so I'll just need to stop by Fry's on the way > > > > home to pick up > > > > and extra 256Mb of RAM-- good thing it's on sale for $44.95.) > > > > I'm just glad > > > > Mr. Allchin warned us all before it was too late.... > > > > > > > > :) > > > > > > > > ~Jeff > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________ > > > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your > > > > mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to > > > > write mail. > > > > > > > > Plug-discuss mailing list - > > > > Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > > ________________________________________________ > > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail > > > > doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > -- > > Deepak Saxena - deepak@csociety.purdue.edu - phone://602.790.0500 > > > > call me 'evil' call me 'tide is on your side' anything that you want > > anybody knows you can conjure anything by the dark of the moon > > - Tori Amos, "Suede" > > > > ________________________________________________ > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail > > doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > ________________________________________________ > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss -- Jim Bliss comes from within, ignorance from without