My thoughts exactly, Trent.

Also, who else has more money, power, and influence to mount a legal 
attack against GPL/LGPL/ect.  If they can poke holes in the legal 
protections guaranteed by the Open Source licenses, the end is near.

On Friday 16 February 2001 11:13, you wrote:
> Hardly clueless, but obviously scared.
>
> MS is signaling the start of a *major* disinformation campaign.  OS
> market share is obviously partly in play, but arguing open source is
> anti-competitive would indicate Microsoft is making a strategic move.
>
> Maybe they want to eliminate GNU or Java style licenses.  Also, much
> open source software seems to be developed by quasi-cartels.  An IBM -
> SUN cartel disguised as an open source collaboration should frighten
> Microsoft.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> > [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of
> > Deepak Saxena
> > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 10:21 AM
> > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> > Subject: Re: Interesting MS Comments
> >
> >
> >
> > It shows how clueless and scared Microsoft is about open source at the
> > moment.
> >
> > ~Deepak
> >
> > On Feb 16 2001, at 09:12, Lucas Vogel was caught saying:
> > > Not only was this posted on Slashdot yesterday, but it had over
> >
> > 1300 or so
> >
> > > comments posted to it.
> > >
> > > It's a good insight to the views some of the MS executives have on
> > > open source, but I really don't think it has any teeth - even if MS
> > > does.
> > >
> > > IMHO,
> > >
> > > Lucas
> > >
> > >
> > > ===========================
> > > Lucas Vogel
> > > Exponent, Inc.
> > > lvogel@exponent.com
> > > 623-587-6739	work
> > > 623-587-4191	fax
> > > ===========================
> > > http://www.exponent.com
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Jeffrey Pyne [mailto:jpyne@worldatwork.org]
> > > > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2001 10:03 AM
> > > > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us
> > > > Subject: Interesting MS Comments
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I saw a link to this article on another list and found it amusing:
> > > >
> > > > http://quote.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?T=marketsquote99_news.ht&
> > > > s=AOospdBaQTWl
> > > > jcm9z
> > > >
> > > > (If it hasn't already been posted to Slashdot, I'm sure it will
> > > > soon.)
> > > >
> > > > A couple excerpts:
> > > >
> > > > "Microsoft Corp.'s Windows operating-system chief, Jim
> > > > Allchin, says that
> > > > freely distributed software code such as rival Linux could
> > > > stifle innovation
> > > > and that legislators need to understand the threat."
> > > >
> > > >   -and-
> > > >
> > > > "I'm an American, I believe in the American Way," he said. "I
> > > > worry if the
> > > > government encourages open source, and I don't think we've done
> > > > enough education of policy makers to understand the threat."
> > > >
> > > > Well heck afire!  I didn't realize that Linux was UNAMERICAN.  I
> > > > am unsubscribing from this list immediately, and when I get home I
> > > > am going to
> > > > blow away my Slackware 7.1 installation (evil, evil!) and
> > > > install Windows
> > > > 2000.  (To do so I'll just need to stop by Fry's on the way
> > > > home to pick up
> > > > and extra 256Mb of RAM-- good thing it's on sale for $44.95.)
> > > >  I'm just glad
> > > > Mr. Allchin warned us all before it was too late....
> > > >
> > > > :)
> > > >
> > > > ~Jeff
> > > >
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