I like the poem. :-) Does anyone remember where that Genisis spoof for the creation of computers is? It was posted on the list several months or longer ago but I lost it.. Don Harrop Three Larts for the PFYs under the sky, Seven for the Call Centers in their halls of stone, Nine for Mortal Men doomed to die, One for the BOFH on his dark throne In the land of IT where the Admins lie. One Lart to rule them all, one Lart to find them, One Lart to bring them all and in darkness bind them, In the land of IT where the Admins lie. apologies to JRRT