I'd be willing to help out with some aspects of Linux (such as security and firewalling). I would also appreciate taking any clases I can, especially where BIND,DNS,Virtual hosting, mail, etc. are concerned. On Fri, 02 February 2001, "Kimi A. Adams" wrote: > > Wes, > > What you say is absolutely correct. I am involved with a non-profit > organization now that is working with my company and others to assist other > non-profits with computers and such. It's still in the development stage > though. It's hard to bring everyone together onto the same plate and then > sort them out to what is needed. Computers and servers are lacking in this > type of company. > > We are also looking currently for a place to teach classes to those that > are disabled, such as Hawke has spoken about. Also to teach classes and > have hands on for people that cannot afford Al Collins Linux classes or > Hands On Technology's lengthy wait for such classes. My husband is also > disabled and in the process of setting up computer repair/sales/classes > that will eventually hire or use disabled people, including veterans that > would like to network and sell services. These types of people, the real > community that needs help, often lack in training or the room to learn at > their own pace. It's often easy to see the "brainer" people because they > are high achievers but some people with intelligence just cannot find the > resources to get the knowledge others have. > > All that my company is doing to provide these services is still only about > 3/4 of the way finished. I am still looking for space somewhere to do some > of these things, of course needing to be attached to a T-1. It's always > nice to see that great minds think alike!! Anyone that may have some tips, > referrals for space or referrals for people to teach these things can call > or email me. > > Kimi Adams > Unity Wave, L.L.C. > 623-580-1307 > > At 2/2/01 12:16 AM, Wes Bateman wrote: > >Sorry to post to this thread a little after the fact, but I don't read the > >main list too much these days :) Hi from Texas ;) > > > >Volunteerism might be better found in the not-for-profit sector. I know > >that many non-profits are woefully understaffed in technical areas. They > >can't really pay to attract and/or retain talent. > > > >When I used to work for the Boys & Girls Clubs, I also tried to volunteer > >at the local senior center. That got problematic because it's a city > >agency and not an atonymous organization. Often also there will already > >be a "technical" person, who is usually just the person in the office > >who's the most skilled at using M$ Word, or the like. Sometimes these > >folks are a little resistant to others coming in and telling them what's > >what :) Those situations either require delicate handling, or perhaps > >find another charity to assist. If you can't find one or know of one, you > >can check your local United Way for some suggestions. > > > >Another thing worth noting is that some of these places don't have UNIX > >box(es). Some might not even have a server of any sort! Those are the > >types of places that can use someone to save them cash by allowing them to > >realize what they want from their computer systems, while not spending a > >lot of capital. > > > >One final bit of rambling, then I'll shut up :) Something easy, cheap, > >and cool would be for some LUG members to scrape together some low-end > >pentium systems and make a mini-network. Notebooks would be ideal for > >this, but not required. I say this because then you take this network "on > >the road" and do presentations/classes for groups. Or you could make a > >low-budget lab for a charity, etc. I would focus the classes on real > >basics, as the clueful will not often be your attendees. Rather use a > >single modem in one box to share access to about 4-10 other boxes. Then > >let folks have hands on, and teach them to browse, set up a free web mail > >account, etc. Good way to help some folks out, perhaps place some Linux > >boxen in non-profits, help educate non-profit employees on how to be > >productive with Linux (show 'em StarOffice, etc.), maybe even show some > >businesses how you can make that old P133 sitting in the maintenance > >closet outperform the quad-xeon exchange box they're running ;) > > > >Of course some folks won't buy into it, as they'll insist you get what you > >pay for. To comfort them, just send them an invoice then ;) hehe > > > >C ya all, > > > >Wes > > > >On Mon, 22 Jan 2001, George Toft wrote: > > > > > That gets pretty sticky. My last employer pursued such labor, and > > > then got to meet the labor commissioner and ended up having to pay > > > over $1600 in wages. It seems he violated something called "The Fair > > > Labor Standards Act" (State and Federal Law) in that he didn't pay a > > > wage, and he wasn't cooperating with an accredited school in a "for > > > credit" program where he could take interns. > > > > > > This is not to say it doesn't happen (his ISP does the same thing), > > > but the chances are slim of finding it. > > > > > > George > > > > > > > > > Hawke wrote: > > > > > > > > I've got a bit of a question? > > > > are there *nix houses here that will allow a person to do volunteer work > > > > as a way of getting the needed provable experience to get the job they > > > > want? > > > > > > > > I am in need of such, if at all possible... 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