\_ Or PERL \_ or the BASH psudo-shell for WIN-32 \_ maybe what-is-it RUBY? Heh... bash isn't a pseudo shell...it's all the way there. See http://www.cygwin.com/; there are also ports of tcsh ftp://ftp.blarg.net/users/amol/tcsh/ and others, I'm sure. For a real editor see http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/windows/ntemacs.html; numerous vi clones also probably run out of the box on NT; Perl for windows comes prettily bundled from http://www.activestate.com if you don't want the native source port. The following links are unvalidated for recentness, but may be of use as well for making Windows more bearable: ftp://ftp.cc.utexas.edu/microlib/nt/gnu/ http://www.nentug.org/unix-to-nt/ http://www.itribe.net/virtunix/ There are also utilites off of M$ for 'xmouse' or some such so you don't have to use that accursed click-to-focus, focus-window-must-be- on-top mode under windows that's only slightly less annoying than typing with dashes-between-every-word-instead-of-spaces. YMMV. What's Ruby? Well, google said: http://www.ruby-lang.org/en/ /me goes to read David