Yes, 10:30 at night. I complained to their ISP (no response) and their e-mail provider (won't do anything without the e-mail headers). I went to their web site this morning, and strangely enough, it has been removed from DNS. Cool!!! I guess delisting is response enough! I searched google.com and there are 93 entries with their name. They have a bunch of web sites under different providers. Shall we search them all out and complain to their ISP's? http://www.azbanking.com/Lists/MB_List.HTML shows this outfit is a home-office. Since several of have been afflicted with this, I suggest we follow though with David's suggestions. Key contacts: Rick Brown/Senior Loan Officer, LoRate@usa.net, 602-999-5764 1255 West Baseline Rd. Ste-150, Mesa, AZ 85202 Toll Free 1-800-318-3331 David Ronsheim, Sr. Loan Officer 602-510-3999 Misc: East Valley: 480-897-8877 West Valley: 602-944-7200 (the number in my spam) Scottsdale: 480-998-8720 Ahwatukee: 460-460-1400 Phoenix Metropolitan Area 480-820-1877 ISP's URL = ISP = Contact acacia-national.com = Web2010, Inc = arin-swip@maxim.net www.quik-start.com = Finnish University and Research Network = Pekka.Kytolaakso@FUNET.FI acaciamortgage.tripod.com = tripod = abuse@tripod.com Here's the message I sent to one of their former ISP's: Abuse Department, Your customer spammed my phone. I can't tell you how novel it is to receive phone spam at 10:30pm. Everyone's asleep and the phone goes beep beep beep!!! beep beep beep!!! beep beep beep!!! Below is the message and the traceback to your network. Needless to say, even though I am in the market for a mortgage for a house in the Phoenix Valley - as are several of my co-workers - I am not recommending Acacia National Mortgage Corporation to them, nor will I condone a company that e-mails phones at 10:30pm. Please deal with this issue. Thank you. George Toft ===SPAM FOLLOWS====================================================== Sent: Jan 5, 2001 10:36 pm MT Acacia38@hotmail.com##Mortgages#To: Phil, Greenspan cut rates, 30 yr mortgages=6.75%, Still interested? 602-944-7200 Saturday www.AcaciaNational.com Sender: 0000000000 ===END OF SPAM======================================================= $ nslookup acacianational.com Name: acacianational.com Address: 192.41.40.107 $ fwhois 192.41.40.107@whois.arin.net Icon Developments (NETBLK-ICON-BLOCK) 10489 Edinburgh Drive Highland, UT 84003 Netname: ICON-CNETS Netblock: 192.41.0.0 - 192.41.101.0 Coordinator: Secure Network Systems NOC (SN-ORG-ARIN) noc@SECURE.NET 801.437.0200 Fax- 801.437.0201 Happy Hunting, George "Furmanek, Greg" wrote: > > Has anyone else received unsolicited commercial e-mails on their phone > from Acacia Morgage? > > How Can I stop these guys? > > Grzegorz Furmanek > Furmanek.Greg@hit.cendant.com > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Three Mile Island '79 Chernobyl '86 Windows '00 (1900) > > ________________________________________________ > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss