I checked out his page. Personally, I think vi is a throwback from the 1970's, but damn is it powerful. vi is not so much a tool, but a way of thinking. We had a six hour outage when the /opt filesystem filled up and the GUI interface to the appserver was being used to reconfigure it. With a full filesystem, every file the GUI change was nulled out. If the genius was using the command line, and had made a backup copy of the files he was changing and then did an ls -l to confirm the backup worked, he would have realized there was a problem. But no!!! He had to use the GUI, and I had to search the whole /opt system for zero length files that were modified that day and then find a backup copy for them. What a pain. That was what cinched it for me: I HATE GUI TOOLS. George "der.hans" wrote: > > Am 05. Jan, 2001 schwäzte Nathan Saper so: > > > I think that der.hans was looking for something like this a few days ago... > > Most cool. This *is* what I'm looking for. Didn't work right when I tried > it as I was leaving work Fri. I'll see if I can figure out what was > hosed. I'm definitely interested in seeing vim 6.0 come out :). > > Here's the URL again, for those who lost it: > > http://www.erols.com/astronaut/vim/index.html#vimlinks_scripts > > most cool, > > der.hans > -- > # der.hans@LuftHans.com home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.Opnix.com > # C'est la Net - der.hans > > ________________________________________________ > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss From Don Harrop Mon Jan 8 04:44:15 2001 From: Don Harrop (Don Harrop) Date: Sun, 7 Jan 2001 21:44:15 -0700 (MST) Subject: meeting ideas.... In-Reply-To: <01010617461300.00810@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Here here! :-) Don On Sat, 6 Jan 2001, The Wolf wrote: > I think there could be quiete a few people interested in programming > and code details in this group. > > anyway.... > > > count me in. > > > > On Saturday 06 January 2001 08:30, you wrote: > > If there are any other members interested in this level of code detail, > > perhaps it might be time for PLUG to have a development SIG. All we need > > is the bodies that are interested and someone to run the SIG meetings. > > The Steering Committee will do all it can to organize and publicize it. > > > > On Friday 05 January 2001 12:30, you wrote: > > > I would like to see meetings on the following topics/sub-topics: > > > -principles of general device driver design > > > -actual device driver coding (traps & tricks) [in particular, > > > timing/kernel issues] > > > -overview of similarities & differneces of device drivers for: > > > --video cards > > > --audio cards > > > --mouse > > > --CD drives > > > --ip cards > > > --tcpip > > > -combining the above for use in streaming media. > > > > > > Lynn > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________ > > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't > > > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > > > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > >