How about sandscrit or ancient egyptian hyratic. Lynn > -----Original Message----- > From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > [SMTP:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us] > Sent: Friday, December 22, 2000 12:00 PM > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Plug-discuss digest, Vol 1 #680 - 11 msgs > > > Send Plug-discuss mailing list submissions to > plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > plug-discuss-request@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > You can reach the person managing the list at > plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of Plug-discuss digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Virtual Machines... (David Verley) > 2. Re: nat forwarding (Pee Kay) > 3. foreign language text (Armin Hartinger) > 4. Re: foreign language text (J.L.Francois) > 5. Re: Virtual Machines... (Kevin Buettner) > 6. Re: nat forwarding (Eric Richardson) > 7. Re: Virtual Machines... (Pete Buechler) > 8. Re: foreign language text (Pete Buechler) > 9. Re: Looking for linux Guru (Tom Jones) > 10. Pricing Error on Amazon (AZ_Pete) > 11. The X(mas) Files] [NOT exactly linux related, but good for a > laugh!] (Hawke) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 16:08:37 -0700 > From: David Verley > To: Phoenix Linux Users Group > Subject: Virtual Machines... > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > Anybody out there have much experience with VMWare and/or Win4Lin? Wife > has > some windows apps and I have my games that I want to hang on to, but I'm > looking forward to completely nuking Windoze. > > Also, anybody in the Mesa area that can burn off a copy of Mandrake 7.2? > > David > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > From: "Pee Kay" > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 08:09:08 +0800 > Subject: Re: nat forwarding > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > Setting up nat and DHCP on the 675 if fairly easy. You can either log into > it via telnet or use the console cable that came with it and minicom into > it. The manuals that came with 675 are pretty straight forward in telling > you how to set the NAT up but if you dont have those you can go here: > > http://www.ieng.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/dsl_prod/c600s/c675/c675ino > p/index.htm > > for all the information you need. The 675 actually has alot of cool > features (even does port forwarding) and works really well. > > A couple things you might want to do while you are in there digging around > is change the default passwords and also disable the http server. There is > a DOS attack that will choke the 675's if the the http services are > running. > > Hope that helps. > > Hasta > > P-K > > -----Original Message----- > From: "Rooster" > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 08:56:54 -0700 > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Subject: nat forwarding > > > > someone had mentioned nat forwarding on one of the post here. anyone > > know how to set that up on the cisco 675? i've got us pest service > > for the dsl. how do i go about setting it so i can get inside? > > > > rooster > > > > ________________________________________________ > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > -- > Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org > > > Powered by Outblaze > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:19:13 -0700 > From: Armin Hartinger > Reply-To: Armin Hartinger > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Subject: foreign language text > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > Hello plug-discuss, > > I'm so tired of spammers. I was thinking of a petty little theme for > some revenge. If they actually provide a reply-to address, I'd like to > mail them back something like that: > > "Helo their, > > I am very interrested in purchesing your product, but mein Englisch is > very bad. I am interrested in makking a large purchase, but lett me > explain in my native language, . > " > > Here I'd follow a long text outlining what a bunch of a-holes etc... > they are for spamming around etc... It would of course be my so-called > "native" language. Shouldn't contain english words or internationally > known curses. It SHOULD contain a large dollar number so it looks > worth finding a translator of this "native" language. > > I could of course do it in german, as this would be my native > language, but I thought of something more exotic. > Someone can provide some insulting text in that theme in their native > language? :) > > -Armin > > > > -- > Best regards, > Armin mailto:armin@pctechware.com > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:51:15 -0700 > From: "J.L.Francois" > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: foreign language text > Reply-To: jlf@magusnet.gilbert.az.us > Organization: MagusNet, Inc. Design * Develop * Integrate > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > Why not use some of the fun web translators and run it thru: > > The Dialectizer: http://rinkworks.com/dialect/ > > I prefer Swedish Chef myself :) > > JLF Sends... > > It seems like on Thu, Dec 21, 2000 at 06:19:13PM -0700, Armin Hartinger > scribbled: > Orig Msg> Hello plug-discuss, > Orig Msg> > Orig Msg> I'm so tired of spammers. I was thinking of a petty little theme > for > Orig Msg> some revenge. If they actually provide a reply-to address, I'd > like to > Orig Msg> mail them back something like that: > Orig Msg> > Orig Msg> "Helo their, > Orig Msg> > Orig Msg> I am very interrested in purchesing your product, but mein > Englisch is > Orig Msg> very bad. I am interrested in makking a large purchase, but lett > me > Orig Msg> explain in my native language, . > Orig Msg> " > Orig Msg> > Orig Msg> Here I'd follow a long text outlining what a bunch of a-holes > etc... > Orig Msg> they are for spamming around etc... It would of course be my > so-called > Orig Msg> "native" language. Shouldn't contain english words or > internationally > Orig Msg> known curses. It SHOULD contain a large dollar number so it > looks > Orig Msg> worth finding a translator of this "native" language. > Orig Msg> > Orig Msg> I could of course do it in german, as this would be my native > Orig Msg> language, but I thought of something more exotic. > Orig Msg> Someone can provide some insulting text in that theme in their > native > Orig Msg> language? :) > Orig Msg> > Orig Msg> -Armin > Orig Msg> > Orig Msg> > Orig Msg> > Orig Msg> -- > Orig Msg> Best regards, > Orig Msg> Armin mailto:armin@pctechware.com > Orig Msg> > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 18:03:07 -0700 > From: Kevin Buettner > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: Virtual Machines... > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > On Dec 21, 4:08pm, David Verley wrote: > > > Anybody out there have much experience with VMWare and/or Win4Lin? Wife > has > > some windows apps and I have my games that I want to hang on to, but I'm > > looking forward to completely nuking Windoze. > > I occassionally use VMWare. It works quite well, but is somewhat > expensive. Also, by using VMWare, you aren't really getting rid > of Windows. (But at least you won't need to reboot your linux > box.) > > If you only have a few Windows apps that you need to run, you might > see if they'll run under WINE. > > Kevin > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:02:54 -0700 > From: Eric Richardson > Organization: MilagroSoft Inc. > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: nat forwarding > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > Pee Kay wrote: > > > > Setting up nat and DHCP on the 675 if fairly easy. You can either log > into it via telnet or use the console cable that came with it and minicom > into it. The manuals that came with 675 are pretty straight forward in > telling you how to set the NAT up but if you dont have those you can go > here: > > How do you telnet to it - I couldn't figure out the IP address cause it > is in routing mode and I didn't think it had a IP address. I was able to > use the serial port thanks to some help on this list > > > > > http://www.ieng.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/dsl_prod/c600s/c675/c675ino > p/index.htm > > > > for all the information you need. The 675 actually has alot of cool > features (even does port forwarding) and works really well. > > > > A couple things you might want to do while you are in there digging > around is change the default passwords and also disable the http server. > There is a DOS attack that will choke the 675's if the the http services > are running. > > > > I tried to do this a few days ago with no luck. I tried to set up the > routin mode called "Configurationless provisioning" with DHCP Client and > Server and NAT. I was using rfc1483 bridging mode to FastQ as my service > provider. > > Do you have to set up a separate VCI channel for the DHCP request from > the router to the service provider? > > Who is your service provider? > > I'd appreciate any help you could give. Perhaps your config file if you > can figure out tftp. It has tons of cool features. > > Eric :-) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > From: Pete Buechler > Reply-To: peterb@suse.com > Organization: SuSE, Inc. > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: Virtual Machines... > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:29:44 -0700 > charset="us-ascii" > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > On Thursday 21 December 2000 06:03 pm, you wrote: > > On Dec 21, 4:08pm, David Verley wrote: > > > Anybody out there have much experience with VMWare and/or Win4Lin? > > > Wife has some windows apps and I have my games that I want to hang > > > on to, but I'm looking forward to completely nuking Windoze. > > > > I occassionally use VMWare. It works quite well, but is somewhat > > expensive. Also, by using VMWare, you aren't really getting rid > > of Windows. (But at least you won't need to reboot your linux > > box.) > > > > If you only have a few Windows apps that you need to run, you might > > see if they'll run under WINE. > > > > VMware has come out with some $79.00 offer for Linux users who want to > run Windows 95 or 98. Don't know other details, but they are at the > vmware web site http://www.vmware.com > -- > Pete Buechler > Developer, SuSE Labs > peterb@suse.com > http://www.suse.com/~peterb > > --__--__-- > > Message: 8 > From: Pete Buechler > Reply-To: peterb@suse.com > Organization: SuSE, Inc. > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: foreign language text > Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 19:31:24 -0700 > charset="us-ascii" > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > On Thursday 21 December 2000 06:19 pm, you wrote: > > Hello plug-discuss, > > > > I'm so tired of spammers. I was thinking of a petty little theme for > > some revenge. If they actually provide a reply-to address, I'd like > > to mail them back something like that: > > > > "Helo their, > > > > I am very interrested in purchesing your product, but mein Englisch > > is very bad. I am interrested in makking a large purchase, but lett > > me explain in my native language, . " > > > The only problem with this is that the spammers are often using some > unsuspecting person's e-mail account to send out their crap. So yelling > back just further upsets the victim. > > -- > Pete Buechler > Developer, SuSE Labs > peterb@suse.com > http://www.suse.com/~peterb > > --__--__-- > > Message: 9 > From: "Tom Jones" > To: > Subject: Re: Looking for linux Guru > Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2094 22:38:00 -0700 > charset="iso-8859-1" > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > If you're currently in El Paso, you may want to get on the Southern New > Mexico Linux User Group (SNMLUG) mailing list. You can find it at: > http://www.egroups.com/group/SNMlug > > It's not quite as busy as the PLUG list, but the last time I looked there > were folks from El Paso and Las Cruces there. Tell Jody I sent you! > > TJ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "hdemetrio" > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 3:53 AM > Subject: Looking for linux Guru > > > > Hello I am looking for a linux guru who doesn't mind having a new buddy > > with them to feed off their knowledge. > > I am looking for a friend to hang out with and learn from and maybe make > > the next idea into a reality. I was a developer with interactcommerce > and > > did some PHP and MySQL work for them but was let go due to the project I > > was working on was thrashed. Currently I am just teaching myself Perl > and > > working on a project for a trucking company in El Paso, Texas. My next > > project will be a DJ system that based on Ogg Vorbis. > > > > > > ________________________________________________ > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't > post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 10 > From: "AZ_Pete" > To: "PLUG" > Subject: Pricing Error on Amazon > Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 08:56:29 -0700 > charset="iso-8859-1" > Reply-To: az_pete@ieee-cas.org > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > Hi All, > > For those who may be interested I stumbled onto a pricing error on Amazon > for the following book. > > Learning Perl/Tk: Graphical User Interfaces with Perl (O'Reilly Nutshell) > by Nancy Walsh, Linda Mui > ISBN: 1565923146 > > The price is $3.49. Normally it's $34.99, it looks like someone > transposed > a decimal point. I only have a mild interest in Tk programming, but for > 3.50 I ordered it. The order did go thru and the book is on the way. > Thanks for the Christmas present Amazon!! > Peter > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 11 > Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2000 11:08:16 -0700 > From: Hawke > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Subject: The X(mas) Files] [NOT exactly linux related, but good for a > laugh!] > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > Mulder: We're too late. It's already been here. > > Scully: Mulder, I hope you know what you are doing. > > > Mulder: Look, Scully, just like the other homes: Douglas fir, > truncated, > mounted, transformed into some sort of shrine. Halls decked with boughs > of > holly. Stockings hung by the chimney, with care. > > Scully: You really think someone's been here? > > Mulder: Someone or some THING. > > Scully: Mulder, over here! -- it's fruitcake. > > Mulder: Don't touch it! Those things can be lethal. > > Scully: It's okay. There's a note attached: "Gonna find out who's > naughty > and nice." > > Mulder: It's judging them, Scully. It's making a list. > > Scully: Who? What are you talking about? > > Mulder: Ancient mythology tells of an obese humanoid entity who could > travel at great speed in a craft powered by antlered servants. Once > each > year, near the winter solstice, this creature is said to descend from > the > heavens to reward its followers and punish its disbelievers with jagged > chunks of anthracite. > > Scully: But that's legend, Mulder-a story told by parents to frighten > children. Surely, you don't believe it? > > Mulder: Something was here tonight, Scully. Check out the bite marks on > this gingerbread man. Whatever tore through this plate of cookies was > massive-and in a hurry. > > Scully: It left crumbs everywhere. And look, Mulder, this milk glass > has > been completely drained. > > Mulder: It gorged itself, Scully. It fed without remorse. > > Scully: But why would they leave it milk and cookies? > > Mulder: Appeasement. Tonight is the Eve, and nothing can stop its > wilding. > > Scully: But if this thing does exist, how did it get in? The doors and > windows were locked. There's no sign of forced entry. > > Mulder: Unless I miss my guess, it came through the fireplace. > > Scully: Wait a minute, Mulder. If you are saying some huge creature > landed > on the roof and came down the chimney, you're crazy. The flue is barely > six inches wide. Nothing could get through there. > > Mulder: But what if it could alter its shape, move in all directions. > > Scully: You mean, like a bowl full of jelly? > > Mulder: Exactly. Scully, I've never told anyone this, but when I was a > child my home was visited. I saw the creature. It had long white strips > of > fur surrounding its ruddy, misshapen head. Its bloated torso was red > and > white. I'll never forget the horror. I turned away, and when I looked > back > it had somehow taken on the facial features of my father. > > Scully: Impossible. > > Mulder: I know what I saw. And that night it read my mind. It brought > me a > Mr. Potato Head, Scully. IT KNEW I WANTED A MR. POTATO HEAD. > > Scully: I'm sorry, Mulder, but you're asking me to disregard the laws > of > physics. You want me to believe in some supernatural being who soars > across the skies and brings gifts to good little girls and boys. Listen > to > what you are saying. Do you understand the repercussions? If this gets > out, they'll close the X-files. > > Mulder: Scully, listen to me: It knows when you are sleeping. It knows > when you're awake. > > Scully: But we have no proof. > > Mulder: Last year, on this exact date, S.E.T.I. radio telescopes > detected > bogeys in the airspace over twenty-seven states. The White House > ordered a > Condition Red. > > Scully: But that was a meteor shower. > > Mulder: Officially. Two days ago, eight prized Scandinavian reindeer > vanished from the National Zoo in Washington, D.C. Nobody - not even > the > zookeeper - was told about it. The government doesn't want people to > know > about Project Kringle. They fear that if this thing is proved to exist, > then the public would stop spending half its annual income in a holiday > shopping frenzy. Retail markets will collapse. Scully,they cannot let > the > world believe this creature lives. There's too much at stake. They'll > do > whatever it takes to insure another silent night. > > Scully: Mulder, I- > > Mulder: Sh-h-h! Do you hear what I hear? > > Scully: On the roof. It sounds like . . . a clatter. > > Mulder: The truth is up there. Let's see what's the matter. > The rest is up to your imagination :-) > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > End of Plug-discuss Digest