\_ just loaded mandrake 7.2 and because i'm always chatting online with \_ friends i decided to load yahoo messenger when done. to open this \_ program i simply have to type the command from a terminal window, but \_ if that terminal window is closed the program also closes. anyway to \_ run a program like that without having to open the terminal window? golly. a whole week went by on this and noone said anything about 'screen'. oh.us is way cold. Like order-of-magnitude colder, depending on your scale. :-) David