fvwm No, not fvwm2/fvwm95 .. just fvwm. I havent seen anything (yet) in any of the shiny window managers that has convinced me I need to change, but I am still playing with the RH 6.2 install I just did yesterday. xv just looks UGLY with a giant KDE window wrapped around it. :-) I much prefer the 2 pixel wire-frame look I set up ages ago with fvwm.. plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us wrote: > I'm not tracking it down. I'm sick and tired of constantly trying to track stupid problems like this one down. If I had a dime for every time I tried to install a piece of software, whether it be freshmeat or the KDE or just trying to listen to a CD, I could have bought a licensed version of Win2k and a compatible computer to run it on by now.