I'm about to give up and install Win98 on a machine I'm preparing for my non-computer-literate son. I just can't get PPP dial-in to work, and they keep asking if I'll ever be done. I am a full time Unix weenie, and I enjoy doing my own hacking on Linux, but I'm equipped for it. I know a "product" when I see one, and this is not one. It makes me sad, but dialup networking is the main use they want to make of this thing, and they don't want to hack root each time they dial in. Linux definitely has a way to go as far as the casual desktop user is concerned. RP3 blows up on me -- segment violation. If they don't know how to use pointers, they shouldn't let the package out the door. (Where's the source to rp3, anyway? Maybe I could fix it ... in my cultural time.) So I went the KDE route and it connected, but hung up immediately. Very Redmondian behavior. This is a new RH 7.0 system and I have not yet succeeded in dialing into the ISP (Inficad) with PPP. I did dial in successfully to a shell prompt via minicom. (Yes, I do have the right number, though their incorrect web page did waste one evening of my time.) Originally, when I set this up, I was able to get it to dial (endlessly) but I had an obsolete number and it never answered. At that time, I had to go in and kill wvdial to stop the dialing. Then new wvdial instances kept popping up so I killed ppp as well. After that I had the machine shut down for a while. Coming back later, I configured the correct phone number and tried again, after confirming it via minicom. This time rp3 "Failed to activate interface". When I tried again, rp3 reported a segmentation error. Where are all those wizards Eric Raymond is always talking about? Any diagnostic advice will be greatly appreciated! Some specific info is appended to this message, regarding my rp3 attempts. If I can't get it done this coming weekend, I will allow this machine to be assimilated -- not my machine, not my decision. Thanks, Vic ------------------------------- I don't know what version information would be helpful, and don't know how to obtain it. uname -a returns 2.2.16-22. I think I have rp3 1.1.4. "strings rp3" returns that value, and also /lib/ld-linux.so.2; libgnomeui.so.32; libc.so.6; GLIBC_2.0, 2.1.3 and 2.1; At the end of system startup, /var/log/messages shows these messages: ifup-ppp: pppd 2.3.1.1 started for ppp0 on /dev/ttyS0 at 115200 kernel: registered device ppp0 <<<=== redundant with ppp1 below? pppd[1002]: pppd 2.3.11 started by root, uid 0 pppd[1002]: Using interface ppp0 pppd[1002]: local IP address 10.64.64.64 pppd[1002]: remote IP address 10.112.112.112 Red Hat Dialer showed a progress bar for a couple of seconds with the message "waiting to connect". Then it puts up a message box, "Failed to activate interface". I clicked the "connect" button again, it shows the progress bar for a few seconds, then puts up an Error dialogue: Application "rp3" (process 958) has crashed due to a fatal error (Segmentation fault) /var/log/messages shows these messages: ifup-ppp: pppd started for ppp0 on /dev/ttyS0 at 115200 pppd[7557]: pppd 2.3.1.1 started by root, uid 0 kernel: registered device ppp1 pppd[7557]: Using interface ppp1 <<<=== redundant with ppp0 above? pppd[7557]: local IP address 10.64.64.65 pppd[7557]: remote IP address 10.112.112.113 <<< was 112 above.