\_ Yeah, I guess that works...but doing that on an ethereal source gives me a \_ 626 line output. I was hoping for some magical trick that would give you \_ an actual file list :) Heh. Steal the spec file out of one of the pre baked ethereal source rpms. :-) Also, I'm not sure, but something clever with chroot may lead to successfull generation of file listings. I think rpm builds do this. \_ I don't know of any way to do such a thing, but \_ twould be slick :) There's always the web. Try the www.rpm.org site for links for docs and stuff. HOWTO and all that. \_ 626 line make -n install results tend to make rpm building about as \_ enjoyable as grouting tile :) I remember the good old days when make -n was comprehensible and the files weren't as portable. Makefiles were an art and a good one was a joy to work with. *sigh* I also remember launching 'make world' on the X tree was good for soaking the cpu for the better part of a day. David