Jason,

Well finally the development group let me in on their secret (not a real
friendly bunch).

Instead of su they have implemented something called sudo, I've never
heard of it before.

It's kewl.

Happy T-day,

Bucky

PS Let's see if this post takes less than 24 hours to appear on the list
since I edited my .netscape files

Jason wrote:
> 
> Bucky Goldstein wrote:
[snip]
> >
> > Does anybody know how I can get su to work?
> 
> What su are you using???
> 
> --
> 
>  Why GNU su does not support the wheel group (by Richard Stallman)
> Sometimes a few of the users try to hold total power over all the
> rest.  For example, in 1984, a few users at the MIT AI lab decided to
> seize power by changing the  operator password  on  the  Twenex
> system  and  keeping it secret from everyone else.  (I was able to
> thwart this coup and give power back to the users by patching the
> kernel, but I wouldn't know how to do that in Unix.)
> 
>  However, occasionally the rulers do tell someone.  Under the usual su
> mechanism, once someone learns the root password who sympathizes with
> the ordinary users, he  can  tell the rest.  The "wheel group" feature
> would make this impossible, and thus cement the power of the rulers.
> I'm  on  the  side  of  the  masses, not that of the rulers.  If you
> are used to supporting the bosses and sysadmins in whatever they do,
> you might find this idea strange at first.
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