At 16:11 10/26/2000 -0400, you wrote: >You lucky I NEVER get 0% packet loss. >my stats are somewere >12 - 35 % packet loss >although I have seen worse results. I figured I had beaten up on them enough on the message so I didn't want to mention that about 5% of the time that we click on a link in the browser, it comes back with an error message (i.e. lost packet) and we have to reload to get the page again. About every 5 or 6 pings I get a "request timed out" error, but since Windows' brain-dead ping program counts that as a 0ms time, it makes the Average number look better than it is so I included one with all hits. This lost packet rate is usually much worse in the late afternoons. Jim Gunkel Nevrona Designs