I'm interested in Embedded Linux also and am looking for more information on
the subject other than information provided Corporate wierdos trying to market
it . I'm looking for any kind of HowTos or tutorials on how to get started with
it  as well as any information as to how to go about making a small "personal
Distro" but Compressed for smaller storage media.
Also .....Anybody familiar with Direct CD.........? I think it would be nice to
have Linux run off CD and at the same time be able to save to the disk Just
like Direct CD does for Wincrap. But this would actually be running Linux from
the CD and saving to CD.Anyone feel like starting a revolution! Oh wait
.......Linux is the revolution!
warlock@ninjutsu.org

On Thu, 26 Oct 2000, you wrote:
> At 09:05 PM 10/25/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >Darryl Tang wrote:
> >> 
> >> Anyone doing anything with Embedded Linux?  Included with the November
> issue
> >> of Linux Journal is the first issue of Embedded Linux Journal that talks
> >> about the explosion of Linux in the embedded devices area.  I want to learn
> >> more about this and would appreciate hearing from persons in the area who
> >> have an interest in embedded Linux or are working in it presently.
> >
> >It has been my desire for about three years now to have an MP3 player
> >with several gigs of storage in a car... I had amassed the necessary
> >hardware to build such a device when I moved to the phoenix area,
> >here, I feel, magnetic storage may be a bit of a problem when in-trunk
> >temperatures could easily reach 140F on the hottest days...
> 
> I got to looking around recently, after hearing about PC104 in articles for
> a few years I finally looked up just what it is.  And as soon as I started
> seeing listings of PC104 cards and cases...  
> 
> What I'd love to see would be a nice embedded kit, something coming with a
> small case and basic parts (including either a network card, or networking
> built in on the main board).  Something where you just add a processor,
> memory and your choice of storage technology (3.5 or 2.5 inch drive & a
> floppy, solid state disk drive, ROM, whatever) and presto you've got a
> small low power networkable box.  Something either under $250-300 for the
> basic parts, or still under $500 if it's including more parts.
> 
> >I know for a fact (one I learned "the hard way") that CDR's are no
> >solution to this problem either... I lost a couple of audio CDRs to
> >being left in the car .. they would just skip more and more and more
> >when I left them in the player. Eventually I realized what was
> >happening, and havent had this problem since I started bringing
> >everything inside with me. Normal CDs to not appear to erase
> >themselves in these temperatures (120-140?), or, if they do, I have
> >not experienced it in the short duration which my normal audio CDs
> >were exposed to those temperatures. (the problem was DEFINITLY not one
> >of exposure to sunlight, direct or indirect)
> 
> I'd love to build something along the lines of a Sindwinder box, even if
> it's coming out at twice the size that would still be a lot smaller than
> even a mini-tower PC.  And if it's low power (I saw on Ampro's web site a
> small case designed for use as a Point Of Sale terminal, only a 60 watt
> power supply) you could plug in several without worrying about the outlets
> taking it.
> 
> I just really like the idea though of having a couple of special purpose
> tiny computers sitting on my desk.  One acting ass a dial-up router,
> another acting as a local web server (say Apache, Zope, and a couple of
> scripting languages, and only what's needed to support them), one running
> MySQL to learn about SQL with..
> 
> Heh.
> 
> At that rate I just spent several months free cash unless there's some
> cheaper sources than I've found so far.  Admittedly though I haven't been
> serious enough about looking to search very hard - mostly it's just been
> satisfying curiosity about what's out there.
> 
> Though the last week or so I've been pondering the idea of building a
> portable' computer.  Not a laptop, but something reaching back to the style
> of the early portable PC's.  But a portable MP3 player would be nice too --
> a suitcase with a couple small speakers, and a computer and say a salvaged
> laptop LCD monitor for viewing the playlists.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Steven "Oh I just joined that sacred band of ''Those who have bleed for
> their computers'' this week.  My but a tiny scrape can make a thumb bleed,"
> Martindale
> 
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