\_ If you want to make sure a file goes bye-bye try srm, secure rm (I \_ haven't). IIRC, there was a discussion about a secure rm like thing on BUGTRAQ not too long ago and basically it was saying rude things about a) swap and b) that any current linux-based "secure removal" tool was doomed to fail, probably when you thought it was really needed. I think the tool was 'scratch' or 'scrub' or something like that. There was much larting to be had by all on that topic. The solution was to use only a crypted filesystem in the first place. That way the data bits will be lost in the noise. BTW, they aren't necessarily security experts, but they play them on BUGTRAQ. David From Damien Salazar" Message-ID: <000d01c03e9d$2d8a4d80$c901010a@tracy> Depending on the town and how far away it is, Frame Relay may be a solution. If you would like, let me know what town you are talking about and I can do some research for you in finding out if Frame is available. Thanks, Damien Salazar Senior Account Executive ViaWest Internet Services (602)840-8248 Voice (602)445-3248 Fax dsalazar@viawest.net www.viawest.net "Big enough to meet your needs, small enough to care". ----- Original Message ----- From: "Datawolf" To: "PLUG" Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 6:38 PM Subject: bandwidth away from it all? > What are the options for bandwidth in a smaller town that doesn't have > DSL/cable/Sprint Broadband? What would be the cheapest commercial-grade > solution aside from ISDN? Satellite services? How about ham radio? > Homebrew? > > Any information would be appreciated. > > -Datawolf > > ________________________________________________ > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss