well, I've finally had it with redhat. I have spent the last 5 hours TRYING to get the needed security updates from them (without success I might add). Their ftp site is unreliable (at best) and right now, impossible! As soon as I am able, I am dumping redhat in favor of the debian system that I recently won at raffle during the last plug meeting. I am sure their apt-get system has to be better than the so-called system that redhat is currently using. sign me: pissed off at redhat "Hawke" -- Make a few extra $$$. Join http://www.preocesstree.com/?sponsor=29027