This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------6AE0C65256898C514AC18DBA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Where is Tomorrow's meeting place? plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us wrote: > Send Plug-discuss mailing list submissions to > plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the web, visit > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > plug-discuss-request@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > You can reach the person managing the list at > plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of Plug-discuss digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. FUCK QWEST!!! (Jason) > 2. Opening for ISP Tech guy. (Don Harrop) > 3. RE: PLUG @ ITEC (Lucas Vogel) > 4. RE: F__K QWEST!!! (Trent Shipley) > 5. Re: FUCK QWEST!!! (Jonathan Furrer) > 6. Re: FUCK QWEST!!! (Don Harrop) > 7. screen blanking (Don Harrop) > 8. Re: F__K QWEST!!! (Bill Warner) > 9. Co-Location of our servers (John Mosier) > 10. Re: FUCK QWEST!!! (Mike Cantrell) > 11. Re: Co-Location of our servers (George Toft) > 12. Re: FUCK QWEST!!! (Nathan Saper) > 13. AdSubtract kinda thing for linux? (rustyc) > 14. re: F__K QWEST!!! (rustyc) > 15. Re: FUCK QWEST!!! (xirirx) > 16. Re: AdSubtract kinda thing for linux? (J.L.Francois) > 17. linux web cams (Mike Cantrell) > 18. Re: FUCK QWEST!!! (Jason) > 19. Re: F__K QWEST!!! (Jason) > 20. Re: AdSubtract kinda thing for linux? (Jason) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:24:37 -0700 > From: Jason > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Subject: FUCK QWEST!!! > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > Has anyone else had their phoneline RAPED recently by Qwest? > > These cocksuckers recently took away my busy signal, and replaced it > with a voice that demands I either hang up, or press a number to be > charged 75 cents so that they will redial the busy number > automatically. > > Does this strike anyone else as slightly insane? Most phones these > days, like modems, come with an automatic redial option. Of course, > after the cocksuckers at quest BREAK the existing phones by removing > the busy signal WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION, they sort of have a monopoly on > redial. > > Fuckers! > > I called them up to demand they change it back, and they say the need > to speak to the person who is in charge of the phone bill. Funny > thing, the cons sure as fuck didnt need to speak to anyone when they > fucked the phoneline up to start with, did they? > > Ahhh... local decentralization cant come soon enough. I would like to > put a bullet thru the head of the asshole who came up with the idea to > replace the busy signal with advertizements for a useless service. > > -- > jkenner @ mindspring . com__ > I Support Linux: _> _ _ |_ _ _ _| > Working Together To <__(_||_)| )| `(_|(_)(_| > To Build A Better Future. | > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:18:08 -0700 (MST) > From: Don Harrop > Reply-To: Don Harrop > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Opening for ISP Tech guy. > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > Hey guys. I'm leaving the ISP that I currently work for so there will be > an opening here. It's a smaller ISP and they don't have tons of money so > for all you guys out there who are looking for an administration position > but don't have tons of actual work experience this may be a good way to > get your foot in the door and collect some of that work experience. You > need to have a good working knowledge of Microsoft OS's as well as Linux > though. Router experience is a definite plus too. If anyone has any > interest please email me off the list. If possible leave your phone > number and good time to be contacted at as well. > > Don > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > From: Lucas Vogel > To: "'plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us'" > > Subject: RE: PLUG @ ITEC > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:25:05 -0700 > charset="iso-8859-1" > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > where is it at? A quick look at the website said something about Portland... > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: der.hans [mailto:PLUGd@LuftHans.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 1:46 AM > > To: quatsch > > Subject: PLUG @ ITEC > > > > > > moin, moin, > > > > ITEC is doing Linux and Broadband this year. As such they've > > offered PLUG > > a free booth at the show. We can also get tons of free > > tickets, but those > > are easy to get anyway :). > > > > Anyway, it's 10:00 to 16:00 the first two days of November > > (Wed and Thu) > > and they try to target IT doobies. Marty@VikingSystems.com > > has volunteered > > to help us organize a showing there. > > > > Please contact Marty to volunteer :). This is not something > > PLUG has to > > participate in, rather it is something we've been invited to > > and we can do > > so if we have members willing to volunteer their time to make > > it happen. > > Having an empty booth is not a good way to do this. Opnix launches the > > first night of the tradeshow or I'd help out. > > > > If we do well, we might be able to make it an annual thing, > > which would be > > great for PLUG publicity and also give us a chance to show > > the vendors who > > donate SWAG for our monthly meetings that we're out promoting > > Linux in the > > valley. > > > > Please let us know if you have any ideas aside from having > > people stand > > around a table laden with flyers to answer questions. We are > > going to try > > to get some SWAG from vendors, but that's not a done deal. The most > > important aspect is that we get PLUG members to commit to helping out. > > > > Great excuse to go and wander around collecting SWAG from other tables > > during breaks ;-). > > > > http://www.goITEC.com/ > > > > ciao, > > > > der.hans > > -- > > # der.hans@LuftHans.com home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.Opnix.com > > # It's up to the reader to make the book interesting. > > # An author has only the opportunity to make it > > uninteresting. - der.hans > > > > > > ________________________________________________ > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your > > mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to > > write mail. > > > > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > From: "Trent Shipley" > To: > Subject: RE: F__K QWEST!!! > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:36:47 -0700 > charset="iso-8859-1" > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > [mailto:plug-discuss-admin@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us]On Behalf Of Jason > > Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2000 2:25 PM > > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > Subject: FUCK QWEST!!! > > > > > > Ahhh... local decentralization cant come soon enough. I would like to > > put a bullet thru the head of the asshole who came up with the idea to > > replace the busy signal with advertizements for a useless service. > > I take it that you are not a shareholder then. > > I wouldn't hold my breath on that local de-monopolization of residential > lines. > > The AZ Corporation Commission lets QWEST charge would-be residential > dial-tone providers about $5 MORE per line than QWEST charges for basic > residential service. > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:39:42 -0700 (MST) > From: Jonathan Furrer > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: FUCK QWEST!!! > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > *blink* wow, ummm, thats, um, very vocal of you *grin* > > I agree with you though, it is rather annoying, the first time I noticed > it I got a little angry, though, not quite as angry as you *grin* The > thing to keep in mind here is that they are a telco, 'nuff said *grin* > > _______________ > Jonathan Furrer > jonny@jofu.com > http://www.jofu.com/ > > On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Jason wrote: > > > > > Has anyone else had their phoneline RAPED recently by Qwest? > > > > These cocksuckers recently took away my busy signal, and replaced it > > with a voice that demands I either hang up, or press a number to be > > charged 75 cents so that they will redial the busy number > > automatically. > > > > Does this strike anyone else as slightly insane? Most phones these > > days, like modems, come with an automatic redial option. Of course, > > after the cocksuckers at quest BREAK the existing phones by removing > > the busy signal WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION, they sort of have a monopoly on > > redial. > > > > Fuckers! > > > > I called them up to demand they change it back, and they say the need > > to speak to the person who is in charge of the phone bill. Funny > > thing, the cons sure as fuck didnt need to speak to anyone when they > > fucked the phoneline up to start with, did they? > > > > Ahhh... local decentralization cant come soon enough. I would like to > > put a bullet thru the head of the asshole who came up with the idea to > > replace the busy signal with advertizements for a useless service. > > > > -- > > jkenner @ mindspring . com__ > > I Support Linux: _> _ _ |_ _ _ _| > > Working Together To <__(_||_)| )| `(_|(_)(_| > > To Build A Better Future. | > > > > ________________________________________________ > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:50:02 -0700 (MST) > From: Don Harrop > Reply-To: Don Harrop > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: FUCK QWEST!!! > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > Sombody is a little testy... :-) > > I don't particularly like that "feature" either. > > Don > > On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Jason wrote: > > > > > Has anyone else had their phoneline RAPED recently by Qwest? > > > > These cocksuckers recently took away my busy signal, and replaced it > > with a voice that demands I either hang up, or press a number to be > > charged 75 cents so that they will redial the busy number > > automatically. > > > > Does this strike anyone else as slightly insane? Most phones these > > days, like modems, come with an automatic redial option. Of course, > > after the cocksuckers at quest BREAK the existing phones by removing > > the busy signal WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION, they sort of have a monopoly on > > redial. > > > > Fuckers! > > > > I called them up to demand they change it back, and they say the need > > to speak to the person who is in charge of the phone bill. Funny > > thing, the cons sure as fuck didnt need to speak to anyone when they > > fucked the phoneline up to start with, did they? > > > > Ahhh... local decentralization cant come soon enough. I would like to > > put a bullet thru the head of the asshole who came up with the idea to > > replace the busy signal with advertizements for a useless service. > > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 15:55:38 -0700 (MST) > From: Don Harrop > Reply-To: Don Harrop > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Subject: screen blanking > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > Sorry... Forgot to mention that I had checked the BIOS settings and > disabled all the power save features already.. So it's not the BIOS > settings, not the setterm settings, not the X settings (I'm not even > running X).. Any other ideas? Like I said, it seems to do it only when > I'm logged in as root. I'll make sure of that for sure though and double > check all those settings before I post to the list about this again k? > > Don > > --__--__-- > > Message: 8 > Subject: Re: F__K QWEST!!! > From: Bill Warner > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Date: 12 Oct 2000 05:51:46 +0700 > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > Um, why hold back? why don't you tell us how you _really_ feel > about this? It's OK if your upset we will understand. > > :) > > > > > Has anyone else had their phoneline RAPED recently by Qwest? > > > > These cocksuckers recently took away my busy signal, and replaced it > > with a voice that demands I either hang up, or press a number to be > > charged 75 cents so that they will redial the busy number > > automatically. > > > > Does this strike anyone else as slightly insane? Most phones these > > days, like modems, come with an automatic redial option. Of course, > > after the cocksuckers at quest BREAK the existing phones by removing > > the busy signal WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION, they sort of have a monopoly on > > redial. > > > > Fuckers! > > > > I called them up to demand they change it back, and they say the need > > to speak to the person who is in charge of the phone bill. Funny > > thing, the cons sure as fuck didnt need to speak to anyone when they > > fucked the phoneline up to start with, did they? > > > > Ahhh... local decentralization cant come soon enough. I would like to > > put a bullet thru the head of the asshole who came up with the idea to > > replace the busy signal with advertizements for a useless service. > > > > -- > > jkenner @ mindspring . com__ > > I Support Linux: _> _ _ |_ _ _ _| > > Working Together To <__(_||_)| )| `(_|(_)(_| > > To Build A Better Future. | > > > > ________________________________________________ > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > > > -- > -- > Bill Warner > Direct Alliance Corp. > Unix/Linux Admin. > > --__--__-- > > Message: 9 > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 16:36:20 -0700 > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > From: John Mosier > Subject: Co-Location of our servers > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > We need to move our Linux web server to a site where we > can share access to a higher bandwidth connection. > > The site that currently hosts our server has a T1, but we > need at least that much speed. We also want to put > our servers where they are secure, but yet accessible > to us. We now pay $300 a month, so I am looking to > stay under that. > > We do our own maintenance, so we do not need much > in the way of support services. > > John Mosier, Excelco Fax: (602) 992-2026 Voice: (602) 992-8076 > http://www.swinfo.com http://www.excelco.com > 2990 E Northern Ave, Ste A-101, Phoenix, AZ 85028 (800) 553-6911 > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 10 > From: "Mike Cantrell" > To: > Subject: Re: FUCK QWEST!!! > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 17:31:40 -0700 > charset="iso-8859-1" > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > > These cocksuckers recently took away my busy signal, and replaced it > > with a voice that demands I either hang up, or press a number to be > > charged 75 cents so that they will redial the busy number > > automatically. > > So let me get this straight, you'd rather not hang up and listen to that > annoying buzz sound (assuming that they changed it back)? Very odd. > > I don't see any functionality loss. You can still hang up exactly as before > and use your redial button on your phone. > > --__--__-- > > Message: 11 > From: George Toft > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: Co-Location of our servers > Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 01:45:45 GMT > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > John Mosier writes: > > > We need to move our Linux web server to a site where we > > can share access to a higher bandwidth connection. > > > > The site that currently hosts our server has a T1, but we > > need at least that much speed. We also want to put > > our servers where they are secure, but yet accessible > > to us. We now pay $300 a month, so I am looking to > > stay under that. > > > > We do our own maintenance, so we do not need much > > in the way of support services. > > > > > > > > > > > > John Mosier, Excelco Fax: (602) 992-2026 Voice: (602) 992-8076 > > http://www.swinfo.com http://www.excelco.com > > 2990 E Northern Ave, Ste A-101, Phoenix, AZ 85028 (800) 553-6911 > > > > > > ________________________________________________ > > See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > Hi John, > > Pardon my abruptness, but the going wholesale rate for bandwidth (at > least in my old job) is $670/mbps, so a T1 will run you about a Grand. > If you were getting a full T1 for $300, you were getting a good deal. > > Cheers, > > George > > --- > Compared to Linux, working with the Windows desktop is like performing > gymnastics in a strait jacket. > > --__--__-- > > Message: 12 > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 19:34:59 -0700 > To: plug-discuss@lists.plug.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: FUCK QWEST!!! > From: Nathan Saper > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 02:24:37PM -0700, Jason wrote: > > > > Has anyone else had their phoneline RAPED recently by Qwest? > > > > These cocksuckers recently took away my busy signal, and replaced it > > with a voice that demands I either hang up, or press a number to be > > charged 75 cents so that they will redial the busy number > > automatically. > > > > Does this strike anyone else as slightly insane? Most phones these > > days, like modems, come with an automatic redial option. Of course, > > after the cocksuckers at quest BREAK the existing phones by removing > > the busy signal WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION, they sort of have a monopoly on > > redial. > > > > Fuckers! > > > > I called them up to demand they change it back, and they say the need > > to speak to the person who is in charge of the phone bill. Funny > > thing, the cons sure as fuck didnt need to speak to anyone when they > > fucked the phoneline up to start with, did they? > > > > Ahhh... local decentralization cant come soon enough. I would like to > > put a bullet thru the head of the asshole who came up with the idea to > > replace the busy signal with advertizements for a useless service. > > > > I would agree. This is seriously pissing me off. All it does is make > it harder for me to connect to my Fidonet boss. Is there anybody out > there who actually uses this "feature"? > > - -- > Nathan Saper (natedog@well.com) | http://www.well.com/user/natedog/ > GnuPG/PGP5: 0x9AD0F382 | PGP2 (RSA): 0x386C4B91 > Standard PGP & PGP/MIME OK | AOL Instant Messenger: linuxfu > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.3 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iD8DBQE55SM12FWyBZrQ84IRAqWwAJ4mZe+QFu95apcdihfJdCzb0q5JkwCeJ5Ob > oVF+QY06z3umLoV5cv0pNGw= > =FWJI > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --__--__-- > > Message: 13 > From: rustyc > Subject: AdSubtract kinda thing for linux? > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 100 15:57:45 -0700 (MST) > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > Has anyone seen 'AdSubtract' (www.addsubtract.com). > > I want to put something like that on my firewall (linux, of course). > > There was noise a while back about killing adverts using the proxy, > but the ability to handle cookies as well (and allow certain ones > and kill others - now THAT's useful till we can get EVERYONE to stop > using the stinking things!) > > So, does anyone have one of those already? > > rusty > > --__--__-- > > Message: 14 > From: rustyc > Subject: re: F__K QWEST!!! > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 100 15:55:26 -0700 (MST) > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > > > > Sombody is a little testy... :-) > > > > I don't particularly like that "feature" either. > > > > Don > > > > On Wed, 11 Oct 2000, Jason wrote: > > > > > > > > with a voice that demands I either hang up, or press a number to be > > Testy, yes. > > Well, how about we all who think its a really STUPID feature write a letter > to the Corp Commission saying that it violates the standard (someone care > to find the standard so we can reference it?) (yes, Toto, there IS a > standard for busy signals). > > You say that I can call and get them to fix it? Cool. I'll do that > also. > > rusty > > --__--__-- > > Message: 15 > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:02:40 -0700 > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > From: xirirx > Subject: Re: FUCK QWEST!!! > <39E4DA95.F66D04E4@mindspring.com> > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > Being an EE and having just recently done a modem design..... I think what > they are doing is idiotic. Many designs count on a certain cadence > for detecting call progress. Eliminating the busy tone is just plain > stupid IMHO. > > James Shaker > > At 05:31 PM 10/11/00 -0700, you wrote: > > > These cocksuckers recently took away my busy signal, and replaced it > > > with a voice that demands I either hang up, or press a number to be > > > charged 75 cents so that they will redial the busy number > > > automatically. > > > > > >So let me get this straight, you'd rather not hang up and listen to that > >annoying buzz sound (assuming that they changed it back)? Very odd. > > > >I don't see any functionality loss. You can still hang up exactly as before > >and use your redial button on your phone. > > > > > > > >________________________________________________ > >See http://PLUG.phoenix.az.us/navigator-mail.shtml if your mail doesn't > >post to the list quickly and you use Netscape to write mail. > > > >Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > >http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > --__--__-- > > Message: 16 > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:23:05 -0700 > From: "J.L.Francois" > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: AdSubtract kinda thing for linux? > Reply-To: jlf@magusnet.gilbert.az.us > Organization: MagusNet, Inc. Design * Develop * Integrate > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > Package: junkbuster > Status: deinstall ok config-files > Priority: optional > Section: web > Installed-Size: 222 > Maintainer: Paul Haggart > Version: 2.0-4 > Config-Version: 2.0-4 > Depends: libc6 (>= 2.0.7u) > Suggests: www-browser > Conffiles: > /etc/junkbuster/config 446ec62ff0c680c5a29d2d0322f012d5 > /etc/junkbuster/blockfile 8dfc415f674ec05b19a4bece89451212 > /etc/junkbuster/cookiefile ab3863a1131a2828fb452c70ddf13bb5 > /etc/junkbuster/forwardfile 341676058ac054c56df3f99c1f8b04c4 > /etc/junkbuster/acl d2e74794cf3b2c8be177bc2ffc823008 > /etc/junkbuster/trust cfb286433a380a0b5676d2cedb75ee11 > /etc/init.d/junkbuster 431bf41a5bd33fe95d621160a64ef233 > Description: The Internet Junkbuster! > Junkbuster is an instrumentable proxy that filters the HTTP stream between > web servers and browsers. It can prevent ads and other unwanted junk from > appearing in your web browser. > > It seems like on Wed, Oct 11, 2000 at 03:57:45PM -0700, rustyc scribbled: > Orig Msg> Has anyone seen 'AdSubtract' (www.addsubtract.com). > Orig Msg> > Orig Msg> I want to put something like that on my firewall (linux, of course). > Orig Msg> > Orig Msg> There was noise a while back about killing adverts using the proxy, > Orig Msg> but the ability to handle cookies as well (and allow certain ones > Orig Msg> and kill others - now THAT's useful till we can get EVERYONE to stop > Orig Msg> using the stinking things!) > Orig Msg> > Orig Msg> So, does anyone have one of those already? > Orig Msg> > Orig Msg> rusty > > Jean Francois - JLF Sends... > President & CEO - MagusNet, Inc., MagusNet.com, MagusNet.Gilbert.AZ.US > Director Of Managed Services - OpNIX,Inc., www.opnix.com > OpNIX - Simply Better Bandwidth > 602-770-JLF1 - Cellular, ICQ: 8137851 > See My Certifications: > http://www.brainbench.com/transcript.jsp?pid=1214021 > > --__--__-- > > Message: 17 > From: "Mike Cantrell" > To: > Subject: linux web cams > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:18:36 -0700 > charset="iso-8859-1" > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > Any suggestions? > > --__--__-- > > Message: 18 > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 20:57:30 -0700 > From: Jason > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: FUCK QWEST!!! > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > Mike Cantrell wrote: > > > > > These cocksuckers recently took away my busy signal, and replaced it > > > with a voice that demands I either hang up, or press a number to be > > > charged 75 cents so that they will redial the busy number > > > automatically. > > > > So let me get this straight, you'd rather not hang up and listen to that > > annoying buzz sound (assuming that they changed it back)? Very odd. > > > > I don't see any functionality loss. You can still hang up exactly as before > > and use your redial button on your phone. > > How? The phone will be completely unable to determine if the phoneline > remains busy as it redials, and will instead assume a person has > answered, making the redial button useless for redialing, and reducing > its functionality to late 1980s levels, when "redial" simply spat > digits back rather than accomplishing something. > > -- > jkenner @ mindspring . com__ > I Support Linux: _> _ _ |_ _ _ _| > Working Together To <__(_||_)| )| `(_|(_)(_| > To Build A Better Future. | > > --__--__-- > > Message: 19 > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:03:55 -0700 > From: Jason > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: F__K QWEST!!! > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > Trent Shipley wrote: > > > Ahhh... local decentralization cant come soon enough. I would like to > > > put a bullet thru the head of the asshole who came up with the idea to > > > replace the busy signal with advertizements for a useless service. > > I take it that you are not a shareholder then. > > Even if I was, my opinion about elimination of the busy tone would > remain very much the same as it is now. > > Although my views on decentralization might differ if I selling out to > dividends annually. > > Frankly, USWest/QWest's service sucks. It took them WEEKS to add a > second line!! Both General Telephone and Pacific Bell were capable of > accomplishing the same rudimentary task in under 24hrs guaranteed, > often within only a few hours. > > Human error, delays, and stupidity are all forgivable, even when in > such gross overabundance as the phoneco here has done. But what was > done to the busy signal was done ON PURPOSE, which sets this action > apart from being a simple inadequacy. > > Perhaps everyone who owns a piece of consumer electronics that relies > on busy signals should participate in a class-action lawsuit. Sad, but > unfortunately these are some of the only ways to get large companies > to pull their collective heads out of their asses... > > -- > jkenner @ mindspring . com__ > I Support Linux: _> _ _ |_ _ _ _| > Working Together To <__(_||_)| )| `(_|(_)(_| > To Build A Better Future. | > > --__--__-- > > Message: 20 > Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 21:07:14 -0700 > From: Jason > To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > Subject: Re: AdSubtract kinda thing for linux? > Reply-To: plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > > rustyc wrote: > > > > Has anyone seen 'AdSubtract' (www.addsubtract.com). > > > > I want to put something like that on my firewall (linux, of course). > > > > There was noise a while back about killing adverts using the proxy, > > but the ability to handle cookies as well (and allow certain ones > > and kill others - now THAT's useful till we can get EVERYONE to stop > > using the stinking things!) > > > > So, does anyone have one of those already? > > Internet Junkbuster. > > http://www.junkbusters.com/ > > -- > jkenner @ mindspring . com__ > I Support Linux: _> _ _ |_ _ _ _| > Working Together To <__(_||_)| )| `(_|(_)(_| > To Build A Better Future. | > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > Plug-discuss mailing list - Plug-discuss@lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us > http://lists.PLUG.phoenix.az.us/mailman/listinfo/plug-discuss > > End of Plug-discuss Digest --------------6AE0C65256898C514AC18DBA Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="maxtek.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Max Tekchand Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="maxtek.vcf" begin:vcard n:Tekchand;Max tel;work:480-425-7326 x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 email;internet:maxtek@uswest.net adr;quoted-printable:;;5900 E. 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