Am 05. Oct, 2000 schwäzte Shawn T. Rutledge so: > Another example - at work last week the admins reformatted the > hard drive on my Ultra5 and started over, because it needed some > repartitioning anyway. (Suns have this neat firmware > feature that allows them to install a complete filesystem > via the network; no mucking around with boot disks.) Afterwards Most decent architectures do :). PCs suck. > I could no longer ftp into the system. I scratched my head for > a while, checked everything I could think of, and had to ask an > admin for help (which is a little embarrassing, because I've been the > thorn in their sides many times for being control freaks, and espoused > the viewpoint that a software engineer should have root on his > own box, for crying out loud.) The problem was that my shell is Amen! ;-) Then again, I know many software engineers that shouldn't even be given user account... :) > bash, and ftp only accepts connections for users whose shells are > "blessed" as being OK, by having them listed in /etc/shells. > (The admins all use korn shell, the masochists, so they don't have > this problem.) (And if korn shell can do command history, filename > completion etc. they don't know how... which makes me wonder why set -o vi will give you vi rules for korn shell. It rocks. You can also use emacs rules. Command completion is kind of a pain -something, but it's there. From an ergonomic standpoint bash is much better, but ksh is liveable. ciao, der.hans -- # der.hans@LuftHans.com home.pages.de/~lufthans/ www.Opnix.com # Like the maid, I don't do (M$)Windows. - der.hans